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#391 Re: Guns N' Roses » LEAKS THREAD » 469 weeks ago
I feel in some places BBF works, and in others the editing is so sloppy it doesnt sound like it fits at all. Also I hate BBF's tone in most tracks, almost has that Steely Dan plugged right into the mixing board feel to it, also has that "gain is a volume knob right??" feel to it as well.
I think he ruined everything he was on that we can compare to an older cut of the song without him.
His mindless noodle on CD the song, do nothing for me, like I said i prefer the first leak from 2006 with that synth melody instead of his shitty guitar fills.
the thing that is missing the most from CD the song is teh wah wah wah thing BH did at the HOB show
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-P9qTtiH8uA
at the 1:20 mark and again near the end 2:12
#392 Re: Guns N' Roses » How many of the 2001 tracks are out there » 469 weeks ago
Uhmmmm, did somebody say leaks?
do you have something not out there lol
#393 Re: Guns N' Roses » LEAKS THREAD » 469 weeks ago
deadsouth wrote:No offense, but you're smoking crack... bff ruined every aspect of the final versions...
I disagree I think the mix and mastering job is the problem with the final versions.
The actual performances are cool.
The album versions of the songs the guitar parts from BBF are just cut and pasted on top of the old tracks. The 50 guitar layers on every track is over kill as well.
So you think the guitar work on CITR the album version is better than the Brian May version?
#394 Guns N' Roses » How many of the 2001 tracks are out there » 469 weeks ago
- dave-gnfnr
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I’ve heard the whole 2001/2002 version is out there
But how many of those are easily accessible?
The ones I still really want to hear is the blues and Chinese democracy the punkier version
Madagascar really got me excited to hear more from that era.
I hope we are close to hearing more
#395 Re: Guns N' Roses » LEAKS THREAD » 469 weeks ago
dave-gnfnr wrote:The BH riad solo was way better than the BBF one, the BBF one did not even fit the song. It was so out of place.
It's interesting the variance of opinion as it's completely the other way around for me.
I like the interplay between Robin and Bucket on something like the Chinese Democracy title track solo but in the Riad solo section - it's like they try for the same thing but it just doesn't seem to work right.
Robin's intro to the solo is painful but then that's always what he goes for with those awkward bends I guess - but it pushes the limits here - in a way it's cool but I feel like he does this all the time - then I like the start of bucket's part - but the second half of it after about 2.40 just feels like the solo break is still going but the solo concept has ended so he's just holding notes and filling in to make it fit.
I don't mean to bash bucket - I love some of his other stuff like "Worms for My Garden" - he's a monster player - and in fact his outro on Riad is fucking killer...it makes the song...
But as far as the solo section - Ron's solo seems crafted to fill the time properly in terms of it's structure. I like the busy and chaotic nature of it that suits the general madness of the song.
I kinda like having both of them on the track - Ron on the Solo and Bucket on the outro.
To be fair I could do without either solo bc neither are that great, but maybe since I heard the bh one first especially the live version that’s why i like it more.
#396 Re: Guns N' Roses » LEAKS THREAD » 469 weeks ago
For my taste, I thought most of bumble's additions actually improved the songs - the final mixes were messy on the album from a mixing standpoint - but musically - the CD riff was cooler with additions, his Riad solo was much better than the leak with Robin, I like his IRS outro.
I'd love to hear some unreleased songs with Ron on them.
I still prefer the very first CD leak, and that got me more interested for the 2001/2002 version. BBF on CD the song, did nothing for me. I like the song without his fills. The best version of CD is still the live HOB version.
The BH riad solo was way better than the BBF one, the BBF one did not even fit the song. It was so out of place.
Not to mention how badly BBF ruined catcher in the rye.
We never hear Shacklers without BBF , so we dont know what BHs version was like, but that is the only thing on CD i like that BBF did.
#397 Re: Guns N' Roses » LEAKS THREAD » 469 weeks ago
I'll take The General any way I can. I'm not going to be finicky now.
I would pass on a general version with BBF, DJ and Frank replacing BH, Robin and Brain. I would want something else to leak before something like that. If that did leak I would listen but then wonder how much better it would be with BH, Finck and Brain.
#398 Re: Guns N' Roses » LEAKS THREAD » 469 weeks ago
IRISH OS1R1S wrote:I could care less about slight variations of already released songs. I came here to this board many moons ago when new songs leaked and other than NEW music, I seriously don't understand the hype this shit gets.
I'm not that extreme but i do feel your POV.
The exception for me I'm interested in the TIL remix because it has new vocals that sound like they really give a different feel to the track.
But beyond that - it's new songs I want to hear - playing around with the 14 songs we already got on CD - one with an older guitar part - one with slightly different drums etc is fun from an academic standpoint to learn about music production and how different arrangements can alter a song - but I already feel that between the 2001 live versions, the 2002 live versions, the 2006 live versions, the 2009-12 live versions, and the 2016-2017 live versions - the 2006 leaks and the 2008 album - we've already milked these songs to death.
I'll take a professionally produced remix or a remaster or something if it comes out but beyond that - i'm at the stage where I can accept the CD as it was.
What I'd like are these other lost parts of Axl's creativity - the unreleased songs. Silkworms, Jackie Chan etc. Those to me are a lot more interesting than minor variations on stuff that we already have. As I said - TIL being the exception due to that insane vocal track!
Besides the blues 2001 and CD 2001, I want to hear new songs but from that 2000-2002 era.
i dont want to hear anything new that BBF ruined like he did with the CD songs. So like if we get the general for example, I want the version before BBF got on it. The earlier the better
#399 Re: Guns N' Roses » LEAKS THREAD » 469 weeks ago
I listened to the Boston promo again.
It'd be interesting to hear that version of Madagascar.
I still want the version of Chinese with the synth intro that Zoot worked on.
THIS espeically since it will just have the lower Axl voice and not the annoying high voice over layer that ruins the song. At least the first leak had just the lower voice
#400 Re: Guns N' Roses » LEAKS THREAD » 469 weeks ago
I hope that messing around part on madagascar is just not something random Brian May was playing and Axl just cut and pasted into the song ha
