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#4381 Re: The Garden » Wonder who we will be fighting in 10-20 years? » 912 weeks ago

PaSnow wrote:
AtariLegend wrote:

Out of curiosity how much does the US spend on research into oil alternative research each year, cause it won't be around forever even with a few discounts from Saudi Arabia....

E85 is the new 'future' thing. Hopefully it works, because it's made out of corn oil. So American Farmers could grow it and convert it into oil. Some cars are able to run off of both it & regular gas. I think all GM's can (Chevy Pontiac Caddy Buick etc) or at least alot of them. There was something on 60 minutes about it. And there were these farmers who pooled there money togehter & mortgaged their farms. The had a refinery built & it converts corn into E85 fuel. Apparently it's been really successful for them, as they are one of a few who make it, so I give them alot of credit for taking such a risk.

E85 is more costly and pollutive than standard gasoline.  E85 is not the answer to our problems.  While you're absolutely correct about Corn being subsidized now (something I disagree with) it would no longer be and prices would skyrocket (as the case in mexico) if it became a major source of fuel.  Just imagine what would happen if drought or famine struck the midwest?

I fully support the use of nuclear power for the majority of our power needs.  I'm no expert on alternative fuels, but I'm very interested in what hydrogen has to offer.

#4382 Re: The Garden » House approves $70 billion more for war » 912 weeks ago

I couldn't have put it better myself Polluxlm.  The founders had a safeguard against this when the Constitution was written.  Although at the time it was excluded, to white, male property owners, I think the rationale should still be applied today.  Only those who own property and are employeed should be able to vote.  This would prevent the elderly from preventing progress and the youth from imposing a bullshit Utopia.

#4383 Re: The Garden » House approves $70 billion more for war » 912 weeks ago

McCain plans on cutting social programs and spending.  If he holds to his word, the budget will decline.  The problem with Democrats is that they have no intention of lowering the budget.  Now that it is at an all time high, they can cut security programs and the military and allocate the money to more social programs.  There's no such thing as a free lunch and the sooner people realize this the better.  I make 50k a year.  I can't afford to pay more taxes so people without a skill and choose to have families can get health care or whatever "right" someone feels entitled to. 

When it comes down to it, do people want to live in "debt" or have even more money taken from them?  I don't know about you, but I like to keep every cent I earn.

#4384 Re: The Garden » House approves $70 billion more for war » 912 weeks ago

A.)  How does that stack to the average life expectancy.  How old was Eisenhower, Roosevelt and Reagan relative to the average life expectancy of their day.
B.)  He's stating that we will stay in Iraq until the mission is finished.  Show me where Hillary differs on this.
C.)  Right, Naders votes we ent to a Dem.  Just like Paul's votes will likely goto a Republican. 
D.)  Bush lost in 92 becuase Perot got 20% of the votes.  More people voted against Bill Clinton than for him.  Clinton didn't win in 92, Bush lost the election.

Edit:

Why do you assume change equates voting for the Democratic party?  The Dems promised change in 2006 and haven't delivered.  I base my vote on the candidate, not the party they claim allegiance too.

#4385 Re: The Garden » House approves $70 billion more for war » 912 weeks ago

I'm going off of national polls.  The Republicans are not putting the effort and money into rallying supporters and getting people out to the polls.  Look at the primary numbers for 2000 and tell me who had more votes.  Why you would think Ron Paul supporters would go Democrat is beyond me.  Ron Paul's major issues are fiscal policies which are embraced by Republicans.  While he is an anti-war candidate, neither Hillary or Obama agree with his stance.  Ron Paul's greatest supporters are by far independents and he's pulled people from both sides of the politcal spectrum  I don't see his eventual withdrawl aiding any side more than the other, though he'll obviously endorse a Republican before he endoreses a Democrat. 

Michigan historically has gone Blue, but as a Ohio resident, I can tell you that I wouldn't bank on Ohio going for Hillary, ecpsecially with a candidate like McCain running.  People have a tendency to inject personal desires into their perception of politcal reality. 

A 73 year old man isn't nearly as taboo as a female or black president.  I'm not saying I agree with using any arbitray identifier as a qualification, but it's true.  No black or female candidate has been elected.  Virtually every candidate is "old."

#4386 Re: The Garden » House approves $70 billion more for war » 912 weeks ago

McCain Surges to Lead in New Poll
CBS News
Posted: 2008-01-14 10:41:49
Filed Under: Elections News

(Jan. 13) - Surging after his win in the New Hampshire primary, Arizona Sen. John McCain has come from behind to now lead the national Republican race, according to a new CBS News/New York Times poll. However, among Democrats, New York Sen. Hillary Clinton has maintained her double-digit national lead in the race, despite winning only one of the two contests so far.

McCain is now the choice of 33 percent of Republican primary voters in the poll, up from just seven percent in the last CBS News/New York Times poll taken in December. Former Arkansas Governor Mike Huckabee is in second place with 18 percent, down from 21 percent in December. The biggest drop downward is in former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani's support, from leading at 22 percent in the last poll to ten percent now. Former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney and former Tennessee Sen. Fred Thompson are tied in this poll at eight percent.

#4387 Re: Guns N' Roses » Axl Rose a Marketing Genius? » 912 weeks ago

I love this band but they are literally a living punchline.  All the excuses in the world can't justify the length it has taken him to get this album out, ecspecially with some material dating back to at least 1999.  The only thing that lets me think that maybe the album exists is that guys like Ron don't appear to be the types to mis-lead people. 

DTJ hit it on the nail with saying 2006 was the year.  We had the leaks and the Rolling Stone interview.  People were genuinely interested and they had a great tour.  Axl came out and said the album would be released soon into the new year.  People can try to find loop holes in what he said about it not being a promise, but the intent was obviously there to lead us into believing we were on the brink.  He even said he'd let us know if there were any changes.  It's been over a year and we haven't heard dick.  Sebastian Bach using the album as a promotion aide to his record doesn't count. 

I still hope this CD comes out, but there's a certain point when any prudent person would realize they're really just chasing the dragon.  I'll go see GN'R if and when they tour again because I love the music, but I'm tired of going to rehash of AFD because that's what will attract the kiddies.  They play more AFD material now than they did during the Illusion tours.  Doesn't that seem odd to be working backwards.  Anyway, that's the end of my rant.  Axl may be a musical genius, but certainly not a marketing one.

#4388 Re: The Garden » House approves $70 billion more for war » 912 weeks ago

The war isn't the issue some make it out to be.  It's definitely not popular, but it's not the looming presence on everyone's mind.  Furthermore, where do Obama and Hillary deviate from McCain on the issue?  McCain wants to stay until Iraq is secure.  I have heard neither Hillary or Obama say any different.  Changing the amount of troops and our mission over there doesn't equal ending the war. 

I disagree with McCain on his illegal immigration plan, but at least the gentleman has something to offer which is more than the other GOP candidates.  Do either Hillary or Obama disagree with his plan?  A man can't be attacked for an issue if his opponent supports it or proposes something very similar.

One bust in the polls doesn't mean anything.  Nothing is for certain, but people should have been skeptical of the huge jump in Obama's numbers in the first place.  Let's see the final votes this week compared to polls; I bet they're quite similar as was the case in Iowa.

I'm not saying McCain is a lock in; anything can happen.  But it appears that Hillary will get the Democratic nomination and she will lose against McCain.  It won't be a landslide, but the Clintons represent the same old routine just as much as Bush does.  McCain has the image of going against Bush and that wil be his saving grace.  Conservatives are being elected all over the world, why would the US be any different?

#4389 Re: The Garden » House approves $70 billion more for war » 912 weeks ago

You're using your personal bias as proof he won't be elected.  McCain polls better against both Obama and Hillary.  While there is certainly time to change, alot of independents will vote against Clinton rather than vote for McCain if you follow my drift.  I have yet to hear McCain's age play a factor in any debate or commentary.

Hillary will get the Democratic nomination.  She's on a roll and wil take every state leading up until Super Tuesday where she is still polling better than Obama.  More people would show a bias towards a woman president than an "old" man. 

I disagree with you James.  Everything so far has shown McCain the stronger when matched against both DNC front runners.  McCain has really shown his value to me with the success of the surge in Iraq.  Some people may want to deny its success, but McCain backed that pony when everyone else jumped ship and he was right.  That is the kind of leader I want, someone who does the right thing even if it isn't popular.  Both Hillary and Obama's records have followed whatever was popular at the time.

#4390 Re: The Garden » House approves $70 billion more for war » 912 weeks ago

Jameslofton wrote:
Randall Flagg wrote:

Where is all this change the Dems promised in 2006.  With every passing day I become more sure a Republican will win in 2008.

Republicans don't have a chance in 08 because this election is gonna be a vote against what Bush has done.

However, I do agree that this congress is full of pansies. Probably one of the worst congresses in history.

Look at the current polls. McCain and Hillary will get each nomination.  McCain will stomp Hillary in the general election.  The public is upset with Bush, Republicans just get some blame by association.  The so called leaders of the Democratic party have failed to deliver.  We will at least have 4 more years of a Republican president and I would want no other person in office right now than McCain.  Ron Paul has some very appealing ideas, ideas that are the core of my political system, but we don't live in a utopia.  From day one I have said it will be Hillary and McCain with McCain winning the election.  I still believe I am right.

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