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#451 Re: Guns N' Roses » GNR, Rock Band, the VMAs and 4 albums » 928 weeks ago

The money could be going to marketing et al, the things in which money's usually spent at this hour. Then again, it could also the huge advance Guns spent in the sessions (which was reportedly a multi-million dollar sum), and still he thinks he's entitled to the balance payment upon delivery. CD's rather unique, as the stars had to practically align in order to spend all that money in the blind spot.

Theoretically, Interscope could've seized the late '98 album material by force.

Geffen acts like the bass-heavy rock group Girls Against Boys and the former 'Til Tuesday singer Aimee Mann are in the midst of recording new records using advance money from Geffen. If they are dropped from the label, Interscope would not only still own the music they have already released on Geffen but also the new music they are working on. (A Universal executive, speaking on condition of anonymity, said that in most cases the band would have the option of buying its new music back.) - NYT, 12/21/98

#452 Re: Guns N' Roses » GNR, Rock Band, the VMAs and 4 albums » 928 weeks ago

If we think about Axl's situation, he's said to have more than studio album in the making from the CD sessions. With all the corporate shakeups at Geffen/Interscope and the ever-changing landscape of the music world, there's no way he can just walk in and ask Uni for a release. Uni knows that GNR is still one of their biggest names in the roster and no doubt wish to push the brand up to high heaven before CD is released.

Rock Band 2 is a good start, as it introduces the new band to a whole new generation of fans. Not to mention the free publicity comes in abundance. Everybody will know Slash's not in the band anymore.

A reunion is delicate part of the equation. If timed incorrectly, it would seem like Axl's giving away the new band and the new album in order to play with the old boys. Not exactly a good way to boost sales. I'm personally thinking of a special one-off event like the Zeps at the O2, with a live album / DVD. Basically Axl signing off the 90's and making way for the new band. That's something Slash and Duff have always said they'd do instead of a tour - and Izzy's touring commitments aren't fooling anyone.

Reunite before CD release to get it out of the way, release CD. Do the interviews, talks shows, et al. Cue January. Take the new band out, starting from soft markets like South Africa, honing a new setlist into place, with less classics and more new stuff.

#453 Re: The Sunset Strip » The Wolf Man (2009) » 928 weeks ago

Looks like a cross between Tim Burton's Sleepy Hollow and Christophe Gans' Brotherhood of the Wolf. Not bad, but nothing that hasn't been seen before so far. Also, what sort of worries me is that music video veteran (incl. NIN's Closer and the Johnny Cash version of Hurt) and One Hour Photo helmer Mark Romanek bowed out of the project in January, two months before principal photography, having already spent a year developing it.

And then he just quit. Within five days, he was replaced by Joe Johnston, a studio-friendlier Spielberg associate, who earned his spurs while filming the insanely scheduled Jurassic Park 3 (being faxed script pages to be shot the next day).

The legendary make-up artist Rick Baker (who got seriously burned by Spielberg in the early 80's by creating the preliminary designs for the would-be ET) is looking at the short end of the stick again.

"Baker revealed to us that the Benicio-to-Wolf transformation seems likely to be created with computer-generated graphics, however, and the film's producers are robbing him of an honor he feels he has earned. '[CGI] can be really great, and I think it's a great tool. But I think we should have been more involved with makeup in the transformation,' he sighed. 'Because, basically, we aren't involved with the transformation at this point. Which is one of the more fun things to do in a movie."' - MTV


If The Wolf Man's great, it means it doesn't really matter who in a pool of professionals directs those studio flicks - not to mention Mark Romanek would've left for questionable reasons as there would've been a good film in it for him to make.

#454 Re: GN'R Downloads » Rain - Film Soundtrack feat. C. Mansell, D. Lohner and R. Finck » 928 weeks ago

The film was released in 2001. The soundtrack was never released as a separate CD.

All of Mansell's soundtracks are featured on his website, although he's probably not be allowed to post full songs due to contract issues, regardless of whether they're released or not.

IMDb

NetFlix

Amazon (DVD)

#455 Re: The Sunset Strip » The NINE INCH NAILS Thread » 928 weeks ago

How many of you guys still remember the suitably gloopy soundtrack Trent made for the PC game Quake (a first person shooter from the creators of DOOM)?

I'll make the effort to secure it on Mp3, as it contains some of the most haunting NIN tunes I've ever heard.

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NIN - Quake Soundtrack - Hall of Souls

#456 GN'R Downloads » Rain - Film Soundtrack feat. C. Mansell, D. Lohner and R. Finck » 928 weeks ago

sic.
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Despite the fact former Nine Inch Nails' guitarist, Robin Finck, is no longer the lead guitarist for the live NIN set, but now a guitarist for Guns N' Roses for nearly a year (or so), that doesn't mean he's trailing away from his roots.

I was given permission to report that Clint Mansell recently completed a score featuring Danny Lohner and Robin Finck for the film "Rain," which is scheduled for release towards the end of 2001. There's no word on the soundtrack release at the moment, but more information will be provided by the official site (www.clintatthecontrols.com) in the not to distant future. - 08/09/01


Mansell has posted 30-second clips of seven Rain songs on his website.

#457 Dust N' Bones & Cyborg Slunks » Buckethead & John Carpenter (Ghosts of Mars, 2001) » 928 weeks ago

sic.
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Bucket, Steve Vai and members of Anthrax in the studio with John Carpenter, recording the soundtrack for his 2001 film, Ghosts of Mars. While the soundtrack is worth checking out, the film is not. Sadly, Robin Finck is MIA, even though he contributed as well.

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Trying to date the sessions a bit.

- 02/21/01: Carpenter had started composing the bulk of the score.

- March 8th-11th, 2001: Anthrax spent four days in the studio, laying down the rhythm parts for the guest songs.

- 06/03/01: Buckethead worked with John Carpenter on some music cues for the new movie, Ghosts from Mars. Herbie says that this was one of Buckethead's most exciting moments ever, meeting the man that invented Michael Myers. When he went to meet the director, Buckethead was wearing his Michel Myers outfit. (This information wasn't included in the previous iteration, 04/05/01.)

- 06/22/01: Robin and Bucket had already recorded their parts.

Therefore, Bucket and Robin likely recorded their parts between early April and early June, 2001

#458 Re: The Sunset Strip » The NINE INCH NAILS Thread » 928 weeks ago

My favorite NIN memory. The only time I've left their concert laughing my ass off.

#459 Re: Guns N' Roses » Are you glad the members of Guns N' Roses are in Guns N' Roses? » 928 weeks ago

Before Buckethead joined GNR, he'd released a total of five solo albums between '92 (Bucketheadland) and '99 (Monsters and Robots). During his four years in Guns, he released eight studio albums. He also joined forces with Village studio engineer Dan Monti, a collaboration which helped him to reach a new artistic peak. In the long run, GNR was very good for Bucket, even though at times it was an extremely frustrating environment.

Tommy was living in the shadow of Paul Westerberg, as he'd gotten a short straw as The Mats collapsed and his most recent effort, Perfect, saw the record label giving a cold shoulder at the eve of an album release. Tommy wasn't working as a full-time musician anymore; he was a telemarketer. GNR's been (again) good for Tommy, as he made the contacts necessary with Sean Beavan, Axl and Sanctuary to get a solo record produced and released. Since his GNR post, he's also appeared more regularly in various soundtracks and other instances.

Robin's the kind of guy who got into the whole deal a bit ass-backwards. He's hardly a session player, he's a live musician. Be it Downward Spiral, Fragile, or Quidam @ Cirque de Soleil, Robin's forte has seemingly been the distinctive emotion with which he performs musical pieces. He's the epitome of a solid tour player; enthusiastic enough to perform someone else's songs - yet arrogant enough to withhold any unwarranted respect or sense of nostalgia. Robin's playing has always had a 'my way or the highway' attitude in it, which was sure to rile up all the Slash-a-haulics out there. Robin, he didn't care. He made sure that even if he was rocking out AFD every night, there was no top hat to be found in his repertoire.

All the people who moan about Robin's scarce discography might actually be missing the point. Robin might not be a person who measures his own merit in studio releases. His personal first love might even be the performance-side of things, playing live before an audience, doing tunes oneself can enjoy (despite whether he'd actually written them or not) and share the good vibrations with the audience. If studio work is secondary compared to the live rush, it may not be as much a wonder that Axl was the first to offer an unexperienced session player the chance to play lead in one of the biggest bands in the world. Robin didn't sought the job out; Axl must've seen something in him and decided to go for it.

(The same thing can be said about Paul Huge; although he's the polar opposite of Robin. For Paul, the fun lay in the studio work: trying out, experimenting, tinkering. He was an unexperienced live player and Axl wanted him on board as well.)

All the studio work Robin's done since has occurred on the strength of Chinese Democracy. John Carpenter's Ghosts of Mars and Clint Mansell's Rain both happened in the laborious studio year of 2001, just Robin taking a break of re-recording parts already finished two years before. Taking his newly-gained studio experience and capitalizing on it a little.

Even LedZAerial, the Zeppelin tribute with some Cirque de Soleil associates was just another form of self-expression through music written by other people. Robin obviously had a knack for Jimmy Page and felt, again, that he could express himself through Page's riffs. There's no reason why you should push it trying imitate your heroes, when you can study their work hands-on and share the sensations they had when belting them out. Robin doesn't have to sound like Jimmy Page, he's probably more interested in taking something that's from Page and find out how much Robin he can inject into it.

Trent's known Robin for 14 years and has hired him on tours three times. Took him all this time to get Robin on studio, which should tell you something. For 14 years, Trent didn't see a studio musician, he saw a ripping live performer. He could've organized Robin to guest on NIN sessions in a flash, as both GNR and NIN were on Interscope roster. But Trent had to do two more albums while Axl was mixing his  - and still Trent's not calling Robin.

Finally, The Slip. It's a rather unusual recording by NIN, as it's the live band playing their respective instrumental parts rather Trent being cooped in the studio for months on end. That's one of things Trent submitted to in order to get the album out relatively fast in the heels of Ghosts I-IV (which could've featured Robin, but didn't, btw). Therefore, Robin's appearance on The Slip, while commendable and overdue, reeks heavily of convenient timing. He came in and played, so that he could tour behind it. Sounds like the work ethics of Slash's Snakepit. Nothing wrong with that, but the creative freedom may be slightly on the slim side.

CD is still Robin's album. Somehow, I get the feeling that he would prefer to be remembered as a GNR studio musician rather than as a journeyman axe-handler (Richard Fortus, please stand up).


The one person who wasted a lot of years without doing much anything else is, sadly, Axl Rose.

#460 Re: 1994 » 1994: Chinese Whispers » 928 weeks ago

Firing Gilby

Soon, the tension caught up with Gilby.

"After a few months during which everyone did their own thing and we got nothing done when we met, Axl fired Gilby without consulting anyone." (Slash, Autobiography)

"They did [Sympathy for the Devil] without me... Officially I was in the band at that time." (Gilby, Songfacts, 09/10/13)

"The whole Guns N' Roses situation with Gilby wasn't as cut and dry as it seems. He wasn't really fired officially." (Slash, Canadian Radio, 04/20/95)

"One day my paychecks stopped coming. There was no explanation - they just stopped paying me. So I pretty much took that as a hint." (Gilby, Spin, 07/99)


"It's like everybody is on Axl's side from the business point of view, y'know? Everybody's scared that they're going to get fired. Because if Axl decides that he can't work with you you'll get fired, no matter what I say! I can fight till I fucking turn blue, but I won't be able to get anything done with the band if Axl won't work." (Slash, Metal Hammer, 11/95)

"Gilby didn't deserve that kind of treatment - especially when he covered our ass so we could complete the world tour when Izzy quit." (Slash, Kerrang, 01/95)


"And so, I told Gilby that that was going on. So he didn't hear it from somewhere else. Because if you know, in this business, leaks are like crazy. And it's just best to be upfront and honest about thing. So I told him what was going on." (Slash, Canadian Radio, 04/20/95)

"[Gilby] was shocked when he was fired, because there was no other reason behind it other than Axl had made up his mind. And of course I had to be the f***king messenger of bad news, which was f**ked for me because Gilby and I are really close. You don't play with people like that." (Slash, Kerrang, 01/95)

"Then he had words with Axl." (Slash, Canadian Radio, 04/20/95)


"My last conversation with [Axl] was when he called me and was trying to explain what he wanted to do. And, basically, it was: I want to change the sound of the band. You know, I want to go more into a current direction. You know, I want to use, you know, more industrial type things. You know, he was really into bands like Jane's Addiction, Pearl Jam and Nine Inch Nails. And I just kinda laughed and said: You know, look - I want to play guitar in a loud version of The Rolling Stones, you know?" (Gilby, Spin, 07/99)

"Then, in turn, [Gilby] had words with Duff. And that sort of cemented the, you know, the relationship, the departure. Whatever you wanna call it." (Slash, Canadian Radio, 04/20/95)

"When I learned that [Gilby] was fired, it was difficult. There was Slash, Duff and Axl, the three original members of the band and they said they had to tell me. I didn't knew what to say. It's their band and I didn't knew how to react. I said OK... He's a great guy. But I don't know if he was the good guy to write the new album with us. We did some songs together, but Axl thought it was not good enough." (Matt, 1996)

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