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#4941 Guns N' Roses » On-stage rapport...backstage » 544 weeks ago

mitchejw
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I just wanted to start a topic regarding their on-stage chemistry to this point. I viewed some of the videos...wasn't sure what to make of it just yet. I am wondering if anyone has been zoning in on how they are interacting with each other on/off the stage...

Looks pretty luke warm to me TBO...what you guys seeing?

#4942 Re: Guns N' Roses » New Guns N Roses member Melissa Reese » 545 weeks ago

Ok fair enough...I didn't see her on stage because I did not recognize her....same way I didn't recognize Pittman.In fairness, I did see a picture of her. I think people over generalize the terms misogynistic, sexism or anything related to feminism.

My point was that she plays a role I don't notice or care to notice. Just like the man who played that role before her.

But now you've got me down another rabbit hole. See...here's the logic....and i see it every day.

Person 1 criticizes person 2.
Person 3 sees it happen, looks back to see who person 1 and person 2 are.
If person 1 is a man, and person 2 is a woman....all context becomes irrelevant and the criticism is immediately dismissed
Person 3 criticizes person Person 1 of your pick of the mill sexism accusations

The comment by James Lofton was of substance...and I acquiesce. I will give them a pass on 2016 and do my best to temper unfair judgements.

#4943 Re: Guns N' Roses » New Guns N Roses member Melissa Reese » 546 weeks ago

Oh my god...I was concerned about the board filling up with not-so-deep thinking, overly giddy fan boys and girls who basically become Axl/GnR yes men.

Here's the problem for me....this whole reunion just took way too long to happen for me and I won't just be happy with whatever they throw out just bc it's the original half of the line up.

This choice for yet another completely random band member to serve in a role that I don't even really notice is absolutely nothing to me.

This, just like everything about this reunion thus far has been about one thing: CASH

The choice of this woman to perform this duty is nothing different - she's probably very cheap.

When will people stop mistaking scantily clad women on a stage as artists or musicians. At least Traci and Roberta added something to the music that I could easily understand.

How long will it be before people start making fun of this band despite the reunion status? At least the Rolling Stones tried to create new music.

#4944 Re: The Garden » 2016 Presidential Election Thread » 549 weeks ago

misterID wrote:
bigbri wrote:

In case that comes off the wrong way: all I'm saying is you can't accept this behavior from one group of people and not the other. I don't see the same level of outrage when Trump supporters are the ones roughing people up and denying them their rights.

I did when they shoved and harrassed that black girl, which was infuriating, and I made it a point to state it here. The difference to me was that it was a stupid, racist old man, near 80 years old who sucker elbowed that kid, which was bullshit, compared to tonight where these clowns went in to deliberately antagonize and try to start something ugly. On MSNBC it was stated protestors outnumbered Trump supporters like 60-40. This was orchestrated by a group who had intentions, compared to a old racist guy throwing a sucker punch.

And I really hate the privlaged left.

Wow, I had largely stayed out of this political debate thread but this one here had to do it....

privileged left? just what in sam hell does that mean? I don't even really know the details but the University of Illinois at Chicago was a very dumb place for Trump to hold his rally. There is no privilege there....it's not Harvard or Yale, or even Notre Dame. It's largely middle class families. The school is just outside the loop and it is surrounded by the ghetto....although they are slowly cleaning it up.

but see.....Trump is a bully....and the only way deal with a bully is to be a bully right back. I'll tell you what man, as a Chicago resident for 10 years, I support the shit outta this...

If Trump wants to attract hate, then he's gonna get it on all sides.

As far a privilege is concerned....man...what a ridiculous statement. If you want to know what privilege is....take a look at Trump. He inherited his wealth and is a mediocre business man at best. Completely and totally out of touch with everything but hypocrisy.

It really is unbelievable....the Republicans created this...now they have to deal with it. This country has largely been conservative for the duration of its existence, but the buffoons in charge have completely rolled around in their own shit. This is the perfect shit storm for a Socialist to come in and win it all.

#4945 Re: Guns N' Roses » Slash and Duff working on CD II according to MSL » 549 weeks ago

Not to be a wise ass but....don't they still have to properly release CD I? tongue

#4946 Re: Guns N' Roses » Axl Rose To Talk "Guns N Roses" on Jmmy Kimmel Live(Not Happening) » 559 weeks ago

Smoking Guns wrote:

ID's beliefs have changed many many times over the past few months. And he dismissed the reunion for a long time. But now he is on board. I think he is a lil sad it was Slash over Finck

My feelings have changed multiple times as well. I really gave up hope on this...

I had many times pitched the idea Axl leaving the band and contracting out all of the GnR positions...although almost no one ever saw the humor in that.

Let me pose a question....the only thing I feel is comparable to this scenario is the Van Halen reunion a few years back. I remember thinking - that seems to be a pure cash grab tour. Any thoughts on the parallels and non-parallels here?

#4947 Re: The Garden » Roddy Piper passes away » 560 weeks ago

I didn't see this thread when it happened.

I just wanted to say that I really enjoyed Piper's podcast. I spend a lot of time in the car so I had his podcasts set up to listen to all the time. He could tell stories (although he repeated some too often, I liked hearing them every time).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGUJzFZR_Q0

This little clip is my tribute to him. It's a lost are these days. Here Piper makes it personal and creates an entertainment value that is of a high caliber. This is what they call in the wrestling world, a shoot. A blending of a 'fake' story line and real live feeling and events.

#4948 Re: The Garden » Donald Trump running for President » 562 weeks ago

Smoking Guns wrote:
James Lofton wrote:
TheMole wrote:

Which is exactly why 'closing the borders for muslims' is the worst thing we can do right now.

I think the worst thing is allowing oceans of them to walk, swim, and fly into these EU countries.  Have you watched any of the videos? The Autobahn looks like a slum, thousands invading once quiet towns demanding free checks, houses, playstations, list goes on. Muslim men freaking out on trains standing next to normal, everyday citizens. Girls have been attacked for wearing bikinis(it upsets Muslims) and they've even attacked grandmas for god knows what(maybe for not wearing a burqa). For some reason people act surprised that others are getting sick of this shit.  I saw that video of the guy on the train yelling at those people for no reason and had I been there , I would have kicked the living shit out of him, just for the sake of the women standing there being forced to endure that psychosis.

Citizens anywhere are not supposed to adapt to a stream of refugees coming into their country. Its supposed to be the other way around. Instead of adapting to the culture they are in, they vent their rage and in the case of that girl, get attacked by a gang for the unforgivable sin of wearing a bikini while sunbathing.  You want these people here? Make sure your daughters/nieces/sisters are covering their legs and send a memo to your grandma to wear a burqa .

IMO here in the US all the people supporting this flow of refugees need to sign up for a program where they will host one family(or if not a family, several people) in their own homes. Once the situation becomes real, the support for it will evaporate. The average supporter clicking 'Like' on Facebook might stop clicking it when five refugees are sitting in their house.

There are small outbreaks of violence/resistance to this right now. Just wait. We aint seen nothing yet. The imminent major backlash to this will only require one major incident to get things started. Its why for the sake of all sides this needs a quick solution because civil unrest across the West is just right around the corner.

There are thousands of homeless citizens in each of these countries. They aren't being helped. Refugees pouring in by the thousands(in total over a million) are getting free housing, unemployment checks, phones, the whole nine yards. Some have even been bitching because their homes don't have playstations.  In what alternate universe does this make sense?

Its a tragedy that these refugees have seen suffering that most people cant even comprehend but that doesn't mean we have to ruin our own countries in an attempt to save them.

Have you noticed all the Americans in this thread feel like you, me, and Buzz and Pollux lived in Europe and he is warning us from what he is seeing, yet, the people saying we should let them in don't live here. And they think Obama is a great president.

It is scary out there. This is nothing like the refugees or immigrants from Mexico, Central America, and South America.

Elaborate....I don't think I understand. Are you saying the Mexican and Latin American immigrants are different than those European immigrants?

#4949 Re: The Garden » Donald Trump running for President » 562 weeks ago

In my limited experience: a recount of the people of Laos coming to northern Wisconsin after the Vietnam War. I'm not exactly sure of the definition of refugee, but I'm confident in saying that the Hmong (pronounced Mung) people from Laos fit the criteria.

The Hmong people arrived in Wisconsin toward the end of and after The Vietnam war in the mid to late 70s. The primarily white, German and Norweigen residents of Wisconsin have varying opinions about the positive and negative impact of their arrival and subsequent stay to this day.

I would agree with the observation someone else made in this thread that they mostly stick to themselves (immigrants, that is) but have been a hard working and contributing people to the state. Many of them were farmers which seems to fit right in with the state's lineage and culture.

Here's how it kind of looks to me:

1st generation in America: Largely stick to the culture they came from. Keep to themselves.

2nd generation: probably the first true generation to "assimilate." By that I mean, they are born and raised here. They likely go through the public school system and are immersed in the American culture while still feeling the strong pull of influence by their parents to homelands traditions and culture.

3rd generation: By now, the American culture has likely and completely infiltrated and you see for the first time a unique American subculture. The extremely unique combination of cultures melding into something new and uniquely American.

You can fight it all you want but the US has constantly been influenced by other cultures contributing and assimilating into what was here already.

#4950 Re: The Garden » Donald Trump running for President » 562 weeks ago

Some of these examples are completely absurd.....did I see someone saying that people making a living off the government eat lobster? Psssshhh....I lived in neighborhood with a bunch of single-parent households. EVERYONE in my neighborhood worked....and NOBODY was eating lobster or steak.

I think these types of stereotypes are dangerous. Sometimes it seems like you're just being angry and need someone to point your finger at....

I also worked in a grocery store from about 16-22. I absolutely hated that job. I didn't get a raise once. The work was shit, the pay was shit, and I was supposed to be ever so grateful to the owner (this wasn't a giant chain) for the opportunity to wash his dishes, slice meats, check people, and otherwise look at the look at the clock and wait for it all to be over. Only, I had to go back there the next day.

This was my typical schedule as a college student.

Wake up at 8 or 9 AM....go to class (ok I missed a few, but I still made it through).
At school from about 9 AM to 2 PM.
I'd go to work from about 3 PM to 9 PM at the damn deli at the grocery store.
Then, drive directly to the library to start my studies. I'd typically be there from about 9:30 to 1 or 2 AM. THEN....I did it all over again in graduate school, although that was only a 2 year program.

You know what though? I'm not even proud of it. I'm disgusted. I completely and utterly disgusted that that's what it took to get ahead in this country. It's complete fucking bullshit. All the while, racking up debt because what I was paid almost never allowed my bank account to get into the 3 digits (yes...I mean the days that I had $100 in my account was a good god damn day). The money came in as quickly as it went out.

It was a lot of Old English High Gravities and frozen pizzas. A few Colt 45s made it in there too. Driving around cars that were unsafe, and neglecting my health and my sleep sometimes. I am so glad I did it then, because I couldn't do it now.

In fact, I am experiencing some significant health problems now as a result of that time in my life. It took me 5 years to complete a 4 year degree. Now, I have almost uncontrollable anxiety. My back kills me on a daily basis. I'll be 34 in 3 weeks and I feel like a 60 year old man. I can't relate to most of my 30-something members of my generation. I have a beautiful girl, and we both are raising her daughter....she had an inside track. She is smart, and beautiful...and had both parents to pave the path for her. I envy her everyday....because she doesn't have to be an old broken down piece of meat in her mid 30s.

Finally, my success with my company has completely alienated me from my family. What used to come so natural and easy is now awkward and forced. The typical signs of jealousy are the undertone of most of my family and friend interactions these days. I've had to learn to deal with the shame that they made me feel for leaving that whole life behind.

Anyway....I'm sure it seems like bragging or that I'm being unappreciative when I share my genuine thoughts on my journey to success. But the honest to god truth is that sometimes I really do wonder if it was worth it. I go back and forth every week. Ah hell...I probably spend too much time thinking about it. It effects me in a very real way though....and I am supposedly the winner of this game called America.

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