The verse riff sounds like Slash too, because they have kind of a harmonic squeal thing going on, which is something Slash would likely play, not Izzy.

I’m happy to keep that up for debate though, as long haven’t seen or heard enough of isolated Izzy rhythm to confirm it’s not him.

jimmythegent wrote:

metallex78 wrote:

I love Back Off Bitch!
Juvenile lyrics aside, that slippery sloppy Slash intro riff

That's Izzy

No way. That’s got Slash all over it.

That was a really cool read - very complimentary of Axl. Rolling Stone have always been GNR cheerleaders but am I wrong in reading they are ramping up things here in expectation of.... something?

Great post 11day....

I think it's more that you can get away with billing Slash + Axl as a reunion, but ideally you need one more person there to reach a critical mass of mainstream acceptance. Axl + Slash + Tommy + Izzy + Frank etc would be just as acceptable to the casual fans who consider the NITL line-up a "reunion"

I see your point...but I disagree.

Duff was a requirement just like Slash was. Placing Izzy, Gilby, Adler, or Sorum in that spot doesn't have the same impact.

Duff's near constant 25 year association with Slash combined with him always being out there promoting is what placed him in the must have category. Also like you and skydog said, he's like a neutral party in the Axl-Slash dynamic and it would blow up without his input.

I also think Duff was smart enough to know the reunion was coming regardless of any drama, and he had a strategic approach to it.

I was simply pointing out that if the winds blow another way years ago, his role may not have been as relevant and this is why he shouldn't be so abrasive towards an original member like Izzy.

Izzy had perfect shit timing on bailing out. He left in the opening phase of that massive tour.

When the world looks back on the UYI saga, they don't see Izzy.....they see the 92 lineup.

Kinda fucked up when you think about it.

It means if GNR decided to reunite the UYI lineup for a limited tour/Vegas residency for the anniversary, Izzy could/would still be excluded in favor of Gilby....and only a few hardcore fans would complain.

Maybe this partially plays into the "fuck Izzy" stance.....he knows that under no scenario is Izzy actually needed. Hell....you could do an AFD reunion with Fortus standing in his place and 99% of the audience wouldn't know the difference.

I also agree that we didn't get the real story on the hotel meetup.

I'll also go to my grave saying we were supposed to get the reunion in 2005-06 but it blew up in their faces....and we got a quick batch of leaks and CD tour round two in its place.

I also think a reunion was quietly considered behind the scenes in 2001. In that timeframe we got Axl saying Slash could appear on a few songs if he apologized and his odd attempt to get Izzy to join before Rio.

I also don't think we got the full story on Slash going to the Vegas show with the hangers on tossing him out.

If they ever reveal the whole truth and nothing but the truth..... we'll find out he tried getting the old band back together more than he tried getting the album out.....