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#751 Re: Guns N' Roses » When will it leak? *It Leaked* » 941 weeks ago

I have to go to work now, but I'm hoping I could possibly get a Prime Mortgage rate here within the next 9 hours or so.  And I'd thank any bankers for the opportunity.

#752 Re: Guns N' Roses » B-Real: 'Chinese Democracy Is Not Real GNR' » 941 weeks ago

Axlin08 wrote:
2008 Intentions wrote:

Guns N Roses never have a "music Style"

You can see in
AFD
GNR LIES
UYI 1 & 2

and soon in CD

B real maybe is insane in the brain...

Which is why I think it reinforces the unimportance of the old band. Axl has been the driving force of this band for such a long time, if not since the inception, and I know that's a very 'Axlite' thing to say, but i'm not saying it to trash the old band.

They contributed. We get it.


But like 2008Int said, GN'R have never had a musical style. Which goes back to the Queen references that GN'R have had, at least since the UYI-era. Even on AFD, the rock songs all had their unique sound. No formula. Lies ended up being the 'acoustic' album. UYI1 was a new era of blues-influenced rockers, and of course the Elton John/Led Zeppelin-styled epic November Rain. Then UYI2 gave birth to the 'GNR epic', featuring several epic and layered songs such as Civil War, Breakdown, Locomotive & Estranged.

CD will be a whole new bag of tricks.

But the one constant is W. Axl Rose. His voice, his sound, is irreplaceable. Any true GN'R fan will tell you, even if they hate his guts, that he's irreplaceable. Hell, fuckin' Slash has said - "greatest frontman in the world".

But the guitars, drums, keys... all can be replaced. As long as the rockers rock you, and the ballads move you - it'll always be Guns N' Fuckin' Roses. 9

This is Guns N' Roses because that's what it will say on the album cover, or if you want to dig deeper than that, for legal reasons.

Do I like/agree with that?  No.

Do I think most GNR fans really like/agree with that?  No.

Is there fuck all we can do about any of that?  No.

Does what it's called have fuck all to do with how good the music is?  No.

The fact that I 100% believe this should be called an Axl Rose solo album has nothing to do with how much I can enjoy the music.  I can get past it, but a lot of people can't.

#753 Re: Guns N' Roses » Best Buy now accepting pre-orders for Chinese Democracy!!! » 941 weeks ago

Neemo wrote:

so i went to the new best buy that just opened and i didnt see a single vinyl record in the store

They had them for Death Magnetic (and I live in Iowa for Christ Sake), so I would assume Chinese Democracy would be something similiar where every store is getting some limited amount of them specifically for suckers like us the 1st day.

#754 Re: Guns N' Roses » Chinese Democracy Starts Now! » 942 weeks ago

Anyone see that "Friends" episode where they get free porn, but are worried to turn it off because it might go away?

That's how I feel looking at the site now.

#755 Re: Guns N' Roses » Guns N' Roses Best Buy promotional ads » 942 weeks ago

If these are all 15 seconds long, they're up on youtube.  Maybe only for a short amount of time, but I just saw them.

If I'm not careful I'm gonna go and get more excited.

#756 Re: Guns N' Roses » Brain talks Chinese Democracy » 942 weeks ago

Just need to take a second to say thanks for starting this thread CSS, not only was the Chinese Democracy stuff great info, but I completely drummer geeked out for over an hour watching various videos off of the list.

#757 Re: Guns N' Roses » Where Do We Go Now? » 942 weeks ago

James Lofton wrote:

The only unheard song hype-wise over the years that would come close to the former stature of those tracks would be The General, maybe Oklahoma. Thyme, Seven,etc. are known mainly for who was involved. No info ever came out regarding those tracks. For all we know, they're a couple of Oh My God's.

Sure there's Zodiac, Atlas Shrugged, and some others, but would those have been ditched for Riyadh? I love the track, but it had a very negative response from a majority of hardcore fans.

Shackler's Revenge looks to be sticking out like a sore thumb on this track list. I just don't think he's gonna use B list tracks on his comeback album because they were leaked by hoarders over the years.

In my opinion, we are getting the A list, or at least a very big chunk of it.

I would lay pretty good odds that a lot of those titles were for songs that were going to be on the heavily industrial influenced album that this whole thing was first talked about being.  Then "Oh My God" happened...  Then a bunch of new songs, or at least other ideas that were out there, started getting worked on instead. 

It's just a theory, but for years this was talked about as going to be NIN-ish, and it really isn't.  So where are the songs that were?

#758 Re: Guns N' Roses » Where Do We Go Now? » 942 weeks ago

Neemo wrote:

What will happen at the HOF induction?

The part of me that slows down when I drive by car wrecks would enjoy there not being a reunion just so we can see what happens when that inevitably happens.

I don't know if a reunion is on the immediate, or short term horizon or not, but I would assume it happens before we hit the (I think) at least 4 years before that happens.

#759 Re: Guns N' Roses » Chinese Democracy Official Tracklist » 942 weeks ago

war wrote:
James Lofton wrote:
madagas wrote:

What is bordering on dumbass is Axl's complete silence on everything being leaked....tracklist, release date, and they still won't say shit. If ever there was proof he is insane.....:bs:  I mean the re-recording of Josh's parts which Axl loved is crazy enough to where Brain was baffled. Unbelievable.

As you know I expected it to be a low key affair with very little promotional effort by GNR, but their total silence is truly baffling. I can see why he might wait another week or so and have a couple interviews in RS, People,etc. and doing a tv show or two, but at least have someone, ANYONE update that official site.

Maybe they have a certain date in mind for a formal announcement, and they're sticking to it no matter what.

For all the secrecy over the years, its a bit ironic that he's going to be the last person to reveal the details on the release.

it's not only the lack of promo........

right now people that aren't totally familiar with gnr are going to their site after hearing of the recent hype and the first thing they see is a bunch of negative bullshit.

and a very unflattering picture of tommy and axl.

change it back to the rock band news if you do not want to add something new

I've been cultivating a theory that somehow time has slowed down in Axl's world.  He actually thinks only a few years have passed, and it's now the mid to late 90's.  He doesn't realize the internet is even anything to be concerned about.  He thinks they just got done with the two year tour for the album that's about to come out.  Brain's drums weren't really set up in the studio for very long.  etc...

That's really the only way it can all make sense.

#760 Re: Guns N' Roses » Chinese Democracy Official Tracklist » 942 weeks ago

tejastech08 wrote:
James Lofton wrote:

For years I begged for a reworked CITR with Finck on lead and Bucket playing acoustic. Get rid of May, and tone down that damn piano.

Its a beautiful song bogged down by its music.

You say that like the leak has been around forever when it's only been around for 2.5 years.

Yeah, but it doesn't take that long to start thinking things like that about even a finished song, much less a demo.  Maybe that's not how everybody listens to music I guess, but I do it too. 

Really, that's gonna be a big hurdle for them to get over with all us diehards.  We've already decided how we want a bunch of these "new" songs coming out to sound compared with how they sounded while they were working on them.  When in reality I would assume they were considered mostly "done" when they were laid to tape or played live.

I guess you can consider it a "hurdle" when we're mostly gonna buy the album either way, but it's something a lot of us will bitch about.

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