Seems like theres a hell of a lot of paranoia in the air here lately...

I used the suckle at the teat line, and it clearly wasnt about you, neither could it be mistaken to be about you... so dunno how you came to that conclusion.

Yep I said I'm bored of watching these fan uploads, so what? I also said I'd love an official dvd or something, but really dunno how I feel at the moment can spoil anyone elses good time.
Like I said in my last post in the Chile thread yesterday, I've said my bit and thats that, I'm done with the subject - I wont be banging on and on in every thread shoving my opinion - that I'm bored with this or that - down everyones throat for the next 2 years or whatever.
I have a point of view, changes from time to time, and if its GNR related quite often I'll bring it up in a discussion on my favourite GNR forum, sometimes I wont bother. Some people might agree with me, some wont, some couldnt care less... thats just the way it goes, you've been around this shit forever, you know fine well how it works.

I thought there was good discussions going on this last week or so, there was lots of differing opinions, lots of contributers and it all seemed flow along well enough. If you had any problem with anyones language towards you then you should have called them out on it there and then, this wide vague sweeping statement you've just made about "you guys" is fuckin BS. All the text is still there if you want to take umbridge with any of it, but take your issues out those people specifically. I've got no problem with anything I've said, anyone wants to call me on any of it, go ahead I'm a big boy and I'm sure I can take as good as I give. But I sure as hell dont want to be thrown into some vague rogues gallery of GNREvo detractors.

I said the discussion was good, and it was mostly, but late last night or this morning (or even before I suppose) there seemed to be a hell of a lot of mudslinging going on. Personally I found some of it was well out of order, and had to wonder, where the fucks the mods? Aint it in the "Matra" that the only rule is to be respectful of one another?  If people were breaking that rule towards you or anyone else recently, then why wernt you or any of your staff here stepping up and nipping it in the bud?

And what the hells the problem about talking about expectations or disapointments or whatever about this band, seems like a GNR forum would be the best place to bring it up, rather than getting "a fucking grip". Especially for an obsessive lot like us, if people wernt as obsessive about GNR these forums wouldnt exist. Funny you think us obsessive lot make you feel like like nothing more than a passing fan... I'm really suprised at that,  seeing as it was the same obsessive lot that clubbed together to pay for a ticket for you so you didnt miss out when GNR were touring in Canada. Pretty sure much of the same conversations were taking place then on GNREvo about our hopes and disapointments regarding GNR , and they were going on long before that, immediately after and continuing on up until today.

Personally I though thats what made this place great, the open discussions - I came here from HTGTH where I was sick fed up of discussions being tampered with or nuked altogether if they werent mindlessly glorifying anything to do with the current GNR, seeing how well it worked here without anyone marshalling the discussions was a big eye opener and a refreshing change.
But looking at it now mabye things have became too lax, especially if yourself and others feel like they are "taking shit" from other members, but again personally I think thats an issue the staff should be dealing with immediately and directly with those involved.

Did I? Didnt mean to, he's got his point of view, I have mine, dont think theres a right or wrong when we are talking bout how we feel. Anyway I'm done, I'll mibbie continue this in the approriate section, seeing as this is the GNR section after all

I'm not trying to spoil anyones enjoyment of what this is and I wont be shitting on anyones good times in the threads of the upcoming tour. This is how I feel now, been building up for quite a while, just expressing it. Feels like the end of an era for me, like Bono I just cant be bothered watching these audience recordings anymore, I'm worn out with them. An official live dvd would be a nice treat, especially after waiting so long for one, personally I think we should all take the hint on that subject as well... it wont happen. But other than that, all I care about is new music from them and dont have an ounce of belief in that possiblity anymore.

I really wonder now whats happened, mabye how CD was recieved just killed off any drive Axl had. Judging by how that album limped out in the end, mabye that drive was gone long before that...

For me though, Guns N'Roses is my favourite band, but not these guys - the real Guns N'Roses I grew up with.
I thought what Axl was building had so much potential, and the little original material we were exposed to in the early years I loved, so I didnt mind those guys stepping in the shoes of the old guys and being GNR, they were working on taking GNR forward.
But those guys are gone now and its a new cast and it seems like they have even given up the pretense of taking the band forward, digging into the the old bands and other bands discography seems like the height of their ambition and I'm not really down with that.
They are good performers sure and they put on a great show... I guess my problem is that the penny has finally dropped on me, like so many people have said here in the past, they are just the worlds most expensive cover band.

Bit of a weak ending to the once mighty Guns N'Roses.