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#821 Re: Guns N' Roses » Ron leaving the band after Vegas? » 614 weeks ago

Here's another recent interview. Ron's doing another solo record right now, so sure, Guns is the gig that pays for everything else. Nothing points to him quitting here, btw.

Ron wrote:

Is it easy to synchronize with two other guitar players?

In the very beginning when Dj first joined the band, we all would just sit in a room for hours in just three chairs facing each other with our guitars figuring out what each one of us should do so that we don’t step on each other. Keep it organized and coordinated so that it’s not just a mess onstage. In the studio you can tweak it and make this one a little louder and this one a little lower but when you’re playing live and everything is echoing and stuff, a little goes a long way. So you have to be very careful and not fill it up too much because it’s just going to become inaudible.

How were the fans at first?

Skeptical. They didn’t know who I was and for a fan that this is a band that they loved for fifteen/twenty years, whatever it was at that point, suddenly mom brings home a new baby and it’s like, “Who the hell is this? I didn’t say I could have a new brother. Get out of here kid. I don’t want you here. I didn’t choose you.” So it took a long time.

But now they love you

Not everybody but that’s normal. There’s going to be people that no matter what they just will refuse to accept anyone other than whichever member they feel the most personal connection with. And that’s fine. That’s ok. I get it and I don’t take personal offense unless they’re personally offensive. And even then I just say, well, it has nothing to do with me. And that’s because what they all did together was so magical. Think of it like Seinfeld. Each guy could have their own show but it’s not going to be the same as what they had together. It’s like Elaine had New Christine and now she’s got, what’s that new one? The Veep. It’s great, funny show. But that’s the thing, it was the magic in what they had together; undeniable, perfect chemistry. It was John-Paul-George-Ringo level. It was Peter-Ace-Gene-Paul level. It was that level and nothing could ever replace that. And they feel like it’s been replaced with something that just doesn’t have the same that they had with them. So it’s frustrating and they resent it and they’re missing it. The food doesn’t taste as good. But at the same time there might be people out there that might look at what we do and say, “To me, this is the one I love” and they won’t accept any other if something changes with that. So it’s all up to the individuals.

The thing is that classic line-up made such a profound impact musically and they were such strong personalities that each one was their own person yet they fit together, they belonged. You could say this guy was a little more punky, this guy is a little more bluesy, this guy was a little more rock, this one was a little more this, and each one added something that completed what they did so well and gave it so much more depth and spirit that it’s damn near untouchable. So now, if someone is frustrated that the new version of Seinfeld doesn’t have Costanza and Elaine and Kramer, I understand. It’s ok.



So what happens after the Guitar Gods tour? Are you going to get back in your studio?

Yep, I got to finish up this next album. I actually just ordered something from www.sweetwater.com. Got myself a little rig that I can take on the tour bus with me so this way I can try and get some recording done while I’m on the road. I don’t know if I will but I’ll try. I can at least try to get in some tracking, something done. It’s all good.

#822 Re: Guns N' Roses » Ron leaving the band after Vegas? » 614 weeks ago

FlashFlood wrote:

I guess money outweighs integrity for him.

Any other way, he'd be out of the band by now. Bucket left because he became fed up with the BS that surrounded the organization. Ron stays, no doubt for financial reasons.

FlashFlood wrote:

he tried to pan handle to cover the costs of touring on that guitar masters thing

He succeeded in that, actually. Like you, I'm OK with him doing that, but it's certainly ironic to think what Axl had to say about Bucket when he left.

According to those who have actually spoken with Buckethead it appears his plans were... to use his involvement in the upcoming Guns release to immediately promote his individual efforts...Nice guy!

Ron and DJ have done a heck of a lot more than Bucket to bolster their solo careers with their Guns association, and while it's fair play, one can only wonder how Axl feels whenever his all-important workhorse takes the feeding hand with the apple, by telling any journalist who cares to listen how jerry-rigged the Team Brazil operation is. Ron's been at odds with the management (or at least, their policies) since Day 1 and he's still in the band because he says yes to touring and because Axl feels a Bucket-level player is vital. There is no Plan B, there is no replacement. While I reckon Ron's genuinely a good person, his tight association to the fans also has a political angle - he's popular in ways other band members are not, because he goes out of his way interact.

The big prize for Ron is a new album with writing credits, because that potentially means songwriting royalties for the rest of his life. ChiDem2 is a succession of paydays for Paul Tobias, Robin, Tommy, etc. There's a reason for this tug of war, and why neither DJ or Ron appear to be actively campaigning for ChiDem2 to be completed and released. What they'd get to do is a bunch of solos. One can imagine there being a conflict of interest amongst the current lineup as to what should they do with the next album - I cannot see there being a unified front to tell Ax how it's going to be. Neither is it very likely for Ax to just turn around and tell the new guys, 'Right, I'll just scoff this stuff I've been cherishing for around a decade and start from scratch with the riffs you've got'.

When Axl gets around to it, I believe there to be another album. Only not with any 'new' songs. Ron might as well face the facts and realize his meal-ticket lies in consistent touring. The gravy train passed them over a decade ago, and he was never onboard to begin with.

#823 Re: Guns N' Roses » Axl Topps trading cards - Signed? Maybe. » 615 weeks ago

Well, it took about a year, but before looking very seriously into new music, Axl picked the pen up.

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#BOOM! Look who signed. @axlrose. Heavy Metal autos will ship soon. More info to come on other autos. #LetsGo! pic.twitter.com/sLmj6xKf48 -Topps

#826 Re: Guns N' Roses » Curtain Call for the Old Guns '96 » 616 weeks ago

One month later.

From allanr@udel.edu: What are the plans for GNR? When is the new album coming out and how about a tour?
Slash Says: Right now, Axl and I are deliberating over the future of our relationship... I have only been back in the band for three weeks and my relationship with Axl right now is sort of at a stand still. 

From affie_c@scsu.ctstateu.edu: What direction will the new album take? Will you do alot of different things like Use your Issulion or a more hard edge like Appetite?
Slash Says: I would like it to be hard edged like Appetite, but at this moment in time I have no idea what direction it's going in.

From elly@ukonline.co.uk: Are Guns N' Roses back together in the studio as a band, or are you recording your various parts separately?
Slash Says: At this point in time we have only been collaborating together. But we have been doing mostly Axl's material.

From rsadows@ibm.net: Slash, We(20 of us sitting in front of the computer)Want to ask .. who is playing rhythm for the next tour?
Slash Says: Off the top of my head, ...we don't know.

That one month might've consisted of the useless 'I go or Paul goes' tantrum from Slash and calls to Slash's family members and his bodyguard(!) from Axl, telling them how they should coerce Slash to come back into the band. Geffen had waited for a year for the album work to start, with Slash. In the summer, Geffen President Eddie Rosenblatt had personally pleaded Axl to have Slash back and get on with it. Guns were autonomous within the label and Axl was in charge. They were booking random studio time for a fair amount. But the most dangerous band in the world was now woodshedding.

Axl was probably after an industrial Appetite, which he felt he could accomplish by having Slash do his thing, and then spending a year in the studio adding effects and whiles, having Trent Reznor muck around with it, or something. Axl needed to get on with it, because he was feeling the heat from Geffen. He had to bend down and get Slash back. The same Slash, who had clandestinely recorded Snakepit, without telling Axl about it beforehand - robbing the songs back from Axl, one could say. This one thing burned Axl more than what he ever let out; not the music as much as Slash 'betraying' him. Slash felt the same after the Sympathy sessions, with a new guitarist in the mix.

As far as bad readings go, Axl's said to ultimately make up his own mind. He may be influenced and distracted by his hangers-on, but he's the one who wanted to meet Duff in 2010, despite his handlers saying otherwise. And nobody has a say otherwise, because all those people are under Axl. Axl would feel more alarmed by a bad reading on Slash or Duff, definitely, which would temporarily freak him out.

Below from here:

Apparently much land in Canada was bought with GNR $$'s, but her husband Eliott eventually had to sell a lot of it after Yoda's death in an effort to support other interests. Apparently after her death Elliot offered up a Yoda substitute in an attempt to keep the $$'s rolling in "Yoda" style. She was also oriental and coached no doubt.

I also heard that Axl got taken for seven figures by these charlatans in Sedona. I suppose with exorcisms at the discount price of $75,000 and weekend confabs at $25,000 per head it wouldn't take long for the $$'s to rack up. Apparently certain staff members around Axl were also required to pay a monthly retainer to Yoda of $10,000. I'm sure it was money well spent Dougie.

Even funnier I have heard that the Maynards themselves would occasionally let their loose lips disparage and mock Axl. Lovely way to have treated your cash cow!

That retainer checks out with former manager, Doug Goldstein.

Dougie wrote:

Oh...the $10k a month that Sanctuary claims THEY were paying Sharon, was MY fucking money. They took HALF of my paycheck every month...and paid Sharon..that was a huge hit for me to take, but I was trying to hold onto yours,and mines relationhip!!!

Goldstein on merging Axl's management company Big FD to Sanctuary Group in 2001:

Dougie wrote:

Ax, I swear on my kids lives, when I was first propositioned by Merck, I immeadiately called Sharon. She told me to fly to England and meet with Rod Smallwood, Merck, and Andy Taylor. Furthermore, and most importantly, she definitavely "ORDERED" me NOT to talk to you about it. She wanted me to ascertain the strength of the company, which at the time was magnanimous.

After my fact finding mission, I flew to Arizona to meet with Sharon and Elliot. They concluded that at this point in your career, you needed a powerhouse company with unlimited power and resources to help guide your career. Again, I was given the missive to "surprise " you with this information, as Sharon felt you would be PROUD that I was willing to give up Big FD to further enhance YOUR career. Ax, check with Elliot..if he denies this, he's flat out lying...I swear on my kids lives.

Phew... Yoda had some gravitas.

#827 Re: Guns N' Roses » Curtain Call for the Old Guns '96 » 616 weeks ago

Yeah, I wrote it, because I've always had a nagging feeling about that show standing in a lynchpin moment for the Old Guns. Slash being in Phoenix for no good reason and apparently, quitting Guns very soon after his guest spot... It raises an eyebrow. There's a French interview with Matt done a week after the show and while Matt's not giving any juicy details yet (Slash may had not formally quit at the time of the interview), there are some revealing moments.

Matt wrote:

Axl is real cool with the Neurotic, he loves the album and he doesn't say it to be polite. He criticized solo projects from other members : he hates Snakepit (laugh). It was hard for me to deal with it. Axl asked me not to go on tour with Slash.

...And I have to be honest, the Snakepit album won't change the music world! ...[Axl] doesn't want to make a shitty record. The Snakepit album could have been the new GNR album, but Axl didn't think it was good enough... There was some good songs, but it wasn't a band effort, it was Slash's songs. It had nothing to do with 5 guys working hard in a studio, what we are doing with Guns right now. When Slash says "I'd like to work on that riff" and Duff answers "Yeah, let's work on it", it's really GNR. This has nothing to do with "This is a Slash song, you will play like that and Axl will sing like that".

Matt's banging his own drum there (forgive the pun). He's pretty much setting himself on par with the other three when it comes down to significance, all the while toeing the Axl line. Slash had already said the preceding year that Matt staying home didn't make much difference, further suggesting the whole Snakepit thing was powerplay between Slash and Axl.

Matt wrote:

I didn't want to endanger Guns N' Roses. If I toured with Snakepit, it could have caused serious consequences. It could have divided GNR.... ...So, if a band as important as GNR would have broke up because I toured with Snakepit, I would have flagellate myself! I was in between, there was Slash "Come on , man, tour with us", but I told him "Slash, for 4 months, we will f*ck GNR up". So I stayed at home and I work a bit with Axl and Duff. I'm sure I took the good decision.

Slash wrote:

They were supposed to keep working while I was gone. That's why Matt didn't come on tour with us, because he was supposed to help keep that foundation for them to jam. Well they only jammed like twice since I was gone, so no one had really been doing anything." (Slash, Metal Hammer, 11/95)

Double standards on Axl's part. Neurotic was Duff's thing, and Duff was in good terms with Axl after being hospitalized and forced into sobriety. Axl got his friend back and made him a confidant on Guns' musical direction. Matt was simply a pawn, who could tour with Duff but not with Slash.

Matt wrote:

Once we will be in the studio, it won't be long. The only problem is to find a way to get together... There are so many people in this project. There's the friend of the friend of the friend... [The rhythm guitarist']s unknown. But I can't tell you his name because I don't know if he will tour with us. There will probably be several guitarists on this album, a lot of guests... 3 years ago, I had a real role to play. Now it's between Axl and Slash.

Apparently, Paul Huge wasn't considered as much a long-term solution than an instigator, to get the ball rolling on the new songs. Slash would lead and guest guitarists would be brought up to foil him. This would likely downplay Paul's presence on the album and focus the end result more into Slash's direction, as it would be him and a bunch of guys complimenting him.

Matt wrote:

[Axl] fired me 2 or 3 times and he called me back... We all have been fired at least 1 time! You never heard about it (laugh)? Seriously, it's true that he sometimes goes too far. Sometime I open my mouth and I say "Ok, Axl, f*ck off!", then he fires me. So? I know he will call me the next day. I feel I'm in security and I know I will be the GNR drummer for a long time.

#828 Guns N' Roses » Curtain Call for the Old Guns '96 » 616 weeks ago

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September 16th, 1996.

Phoenix, AZ.

It had been a series of tribulations for the 'most dangerous band in the world', now washed out, out of fad, with the same problems as ever. Slash's drinking was an issue, which escalated whenever he was kept off the road. Axl had kept him off the road for the past year. The Snakepit album had been a source of contention between the two. Axl wanted have his pick of the litter to pick the songs apart and rebuild them. Slash said, no. He'd wanted the album done, so he'd recorded it with his own band. No more waiting on Axl. They'd been taken to record a Stones cover soon after. Slash delivered a bluesy solo, which Axl thought took too many liberties on Richards. Axl sang the same words as Jagger, one might say. Paul Huge did some overdubbing, there. Slash was furious, and Axl was probably aware of it.

The next year had been worse. Slash had toured with Snakepit for the first part of the year, before Axl told Geffen he'd be ready to work on the next album whenever Slash is. Axl passed out his letter of resignation from Guns and began a year-long legal tug of war with Slash. Into the summer, Duff and Matt had taken off with the supergroup, Neurotic Outsiders, and had everything going their way by Halloween. They had a record deal by playing weekly in Johnny Depp's bar. Guns was in absolute disarray, with Slash and Axl at odds and Duff and Matt with a good thing going.

Axl had spun his webs by creating a shadow group of musicians, who would pretty much Minecraft Axl an album, developing and recording musical ideas in a painstaking fashion. Earlier in the summer, Axl had summoned up Slash to finally share his vision of the band. It would be centered around them; Axl had in his mind an idea of a blues-rock-based album. That must've been a first for Slash in a while: his Snakepit album was rejected by Axl and Duff, because they saw it as overly-familiar ground. Musically cultured, they were wondering how they should adjust to the times. Axl'd wanted to do a solo album with Trent Reznor. Slash just wanted to play.

Last month, after what seemed like forever, Axl and Slash got into an agreement as to how to proceed with Guns. There was a contract, a trial period. Everyone was on Axl. There were rehearsals. Paul Huge played rhythm. Axl showed up late. Slash opted to get drunk in a strip bar next door while waiting for him. On most nights, he waited for hours. Axl provided with the songs, or at least, drafts of songs, melodies and structures by his shadow group. It was, to a degree, about filling the blanks. Axl wanted to hear the proper interpretation, the secret recipe of a Guns song.

Duff and Matt had dates happening with Neurotic Outsiders, as their band mate Steve Jones was available from the concurrent Sex Pistols reunion tour. They'd only be at it for September, but Axl wanted them to be around. The other week, they'd had a four-day break between Toronto and Detroit region. They had flown to LA for some more Guns rehearsals. Now, the tour had continued for a few days and landed them in the Electric Ballroom, a large venue with even a curtain to cover the stage. Slash might've seen the irony of a curtain call when he was prowling about there, cigarette in hand.

What was he even doing there? Playing one show with the mates, lending them a hand, having fun. On a Monday night in Phoenix. Why not have the same fun the coming Wednesday, when Neurotic would play at The Whiskey in LA? Why bother traveling to the desert to meet up with your friends? Before the next band meeting in LA. Or in Phoenix. Of all the places in the world where Axl could've been that day, a two-hour drive up north is a possibility.



The story of Yoda is perhaps best recalled by Peter Bradshaw.

Axl shouted at security personnel at Sky Harbor International Airport in February 1998 after a screener asked to search his hand luggage... He spent a couple of hours behind bars... Lost in the minor hoopla over the arrest was the matter of what, exactly, Axl was doing at the Phoenix airport. Was Axl coming back from a place where he often goes - Sedona, the New Age bastion in the red-rock canyons 115 miles north of Phoenix, where he sees one of the most important people in his world, a psychic known derisively in the GN'R camp as Yoda?

Though nobody knows precisely how he got involved, people who know him say Axl started visiting Sedona in the early nineties, sometimes travelling with Beta, his housekeeper, or Earl, his bodyguard. Many believers in past lives, channelling, UFOs and the predictive power of crystals pass through Sedona. The town is so tuned in, vibewise that certain canyons are understood to be vortexes for masculine energy and others for feminine forces. In the produce aisles of Sedona supermarkets, shoppers dangle crystals over the pints of strawberries.

... Yoda's real name is Sharon Maynard. A rather plain Asian woman of middle age, Maynard stands about five feet five and has a medium build and dark, curly hair. Since 1978 she has run a not-for-profit business in Sedona called Arcos Cielos Corp., which loosely translated from the Spanish means "sky arcs." The company, with assets of $241,602 in 1998, lists itself as an "educational" enterprise. Aricos Cielos operates out of Maynard's rural home in Sedona, which she shares with her husband, Elliott, a gently gray-haired man. "Dr. Elliott and Sharon Maynard" are both thanked in the Use Your Illusion liner notes.

Sharon Maynards keeps a low profile in town. "She is way under, low-key," says a local business man with ties to the psychic community. None of the New Age booksellers or silversmiths I talked to knew her, and she wasn't listed in the phone book or with the Center for the New Age, where a tick three-ring binder full of psychics and past-life therapists is available for perusal - and many of those listed are available for immediate consultation in booths upstairs. This is not surprising. Much of the more high-end psychic work in Sedona is done b quiet figures like Yoda who work out of private homes.

While it is customary for tour employees to submit a photograph for a laminated pass, with Axl other things seemed to come into play. Doug Goldstein is said to gather photos at the singer's instruction for psychic assessment. In Sedona, some think, Yoda would examine these photos. What does so-and-so want out of Axl? Does this person have his best interests in mind? What kind of energy do they emit?

Submitting a photo to Axl for evaluation by Yoda, some say, coincided with employment in the GN'R world. Band members, crew members, record-company executives - everybody did it. The procedure still goes on. Recalls one current employee, "I sent my picture in. Everybody gets a photo made for a pass. People made jokes about auras being read. What's this for? Nobody really knew. But I don't know anybody who got canned for anything other than not doing a good job." On occasion, according to a music-industry figure Axl recently worked with, Yoda even requests photographs of the sons and daughters of people in Axl's world.

   


Axl taking Slash to Phoenix is not all that far-fetched. Tom Zutaut, an A&R Man on all Guns' studio albums, accompanied Axl to Sedona in July, 2001. According to him, Axl felt the trip necessary as he felt they were "surrounded by negative energy". There was more than enough of that in the 1996 lineup. Paul Huge and Slash never really hashed out their working relationship, which had been enforced by Axl since the Sympathy for the Devil sessions almost two years ago. "Paul will play on the song, Paul will write songs, Paul will rehearse with the band..." Paul must've looked good on a photo that day.

Later that month, Slash admitted to have lapsed into a suicidal depression over his position in Guns. He quit the next morning, with a month-long resignation period. Axl had made up his mind, Paul Huge wasn't going anywhere. Axl might've thought his old buddy would made a wonderful replacement for Izzy, to have that Lafayette songwriting mojo back in Guns. He might've entertained the notion of dismissing Paul to appease Slash - but if Paul read well in Yoda's mind, he would benefit Axl's album, right?

It all went sour. The Guns rehearsals were stopped, dead on. Slash and Axl were at odds again. The album was, again, in disarray. Slash joined Neurotic Outsiders on stage that night, and the three that would be Velvet Revolver had their last night out as Guns.

There's no telling whether Axl was there that night.

#829 Re: Guns N' Roses » Time for the reunion » 622 weeks ago

Ah, true. From the original article:

Robin Leach wrote:

I’m reliably told that business at the box office has been phenomenal and even better than frontman Axl Rose anticipated. “So much so, he’s begun thinking about putting the original group all back together for a global tour. That would be the biggest-selling rock tour of all tours,” one knowledgeable insider told me."

It's pretty shoddy journalism in that it's hearsay, turning into headlines when reprinted by sensationalist websites like Blabbermouth.

#830 Re: Guns N' Roses » Twitter Q&A Fortus and Dj » 622 weeks ago

Mexico dates being planned for November. Axl's following in Dylan's trail.

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