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johndivney wrote:
PaSnow wrote:

Republicans (and Sessions) are started to cave in to "recusing" him, whereas now Dems have moved onward to "resigning". lol, funny how it happens that way.

All part of the game. Democrats call for harshest punishment & paint it in worst light possible to gain some leverage, probably with aim of recusing himself from the inquiry & not actually resigning. Republicans don't want to give an inch or surrender any power or admit any wrong doing.

Be very surprised if he is forced to resign tho. Doesn't seem to be an awful lot in it, not much grounds for the controversy. A storm in a teacup. Or vodka shot. Doesn't seem close to grounds for dismissal, in fact it seems more likely the question during his hearing was worded in such a manner as to predict & cover this very issue i.e. he wasn't asked did he have contact with Russian officials, he was asked did he have contact with Russian officials with relation to the election. Plenty of leeway there.

mitchejw
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mitchejw wrote:
Randall Flagg wrote:
PaSnow wrote:

Republicans (and Sessions) are started to cave in to "recusing" him, whereas now Dems have moved onward to "resigning". lol, funny how it happens that way.


I know right.  Lynch can get caught having a secret meeting in a hangar with the husband of someone under investigation by the FBI and Democrats will find nothing amiss, but Sessions shakes someone's hand at a public meeting and all of a sudden he's guilty of treason.  It's funny how inane and illogical one of our major party's are.  It's not like they put the father of a mass shooter on stage or the mother of an attempted cop killer on stage...oh wait.  Why do people take the DNC serious again?

The reciprocal is also true, RF.

This all started with the Republicans. You can't be concerned about Benghazi, obamas birth certificate and emails but downplay very obvious concerns about Russian ties and influence.

The biggest difference in my opinion is that there is way more smoke surrounding this than there ever was with any of the issues the Republicans were concerned with for the past 8 years.

The hypocrisy is self-evident and calls into question their concerns to begin with.

misterID
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misterID wrote:
Randall Flagg wrote:
PaSnow wrote:

Republicans (and Sessions) are started to cave in to "recusing" him, whereas now Dems have moved onward to "resigning". lol, funny how it happens that way.


I know right.  Lynch can get caught having a secret meeting in a hangar with the husband of someone under investigation by the FBI and Democrats will find nothing amiss, but Sessions shakes someone's hand at a public meeting and all of a sudden he's guilty of treason.  It's funny how inane and illogical one of our major party's are.  It's not like they put the father of a mass shooter on stage or the mother of an attempted cop killer on stage...oh wait.  Why do people take the DNC serious again?

Lynch recused herself from investigations voluntarily. She never denied meeting with him. She never lied under oath. Jeff Sessions spoke to the Russian ambassador twice. He also pursued impeachment of Bill Clinton for lying under oath.

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misterID wrote:
Randall Flagg wrote:
PaSnow wrote:

Republicans (and Sessions) are started to cave in to "recusing" him, whereas now Dems have moved onward to "resigning". lol, funny how it happens that way.


I know right.  Lynch can get caught having a secret meeting in a hangar with the husband of someone under investigation by the FBI and Democrats will find nothing amiss, but Sessions shakes someone's hand at a public meeting and all of a sudden he's guilty of treason.  It's funny how inane and illogical one of our major party's are.  It's not like they put the father of a mass shooter on stage or the mother of an attempted cop killer on stage...oh wait.  Why do people take the DNC serious again?

Lynch recused herself from investigations voluntarily. She never denied meeting with him. She never lied under oath. Jeff Sessions spoke to the Russian ambassador twice. He also pursued impeachment of Bill Clinton for lying under oath.


When did she recuse herself?  It wasn't right away. And no, Sessions didn't. Quit lying or buying liberal talking points. Sessions was asked under oath if he discussed the election with any foreign governments. Do you have any evidence his handshake involved discussing the election.

This is why your party is at its weakest point nationwide in over 100 years. You scream foul at the wind and pretend mentally ill people can really change their stripes.

You have the audacity to get worked up about Jewish cemeteries and blame Trump, but your party just appointed an openly anti Semitic, black nationalist as its number 2. No one who doesn't have their head shoved up their ass thinks your party has a single valid idea for moving forward. They're on fucking TV hand and hand with convicted felons and drug dealers, saying it's inhuman we're kicking them out for violating our laws.  You never see a Democrat standing with the widow of a police officer who was killed by a gang banger, but they'll sure as shit drag out the mother of a gang banger shot by a cop.

You all were jerking each other off because the father of a fallen soldier didn't want to shake Trump's hand. I've noticed you went fucking silent when his widow was in the audience Tuesday standing next to Ivanka.

Your party did nothing for 8 years besides pass Obamacare and wreck the insurance industry. Yes, even your beloved Bill Clinton said as much.

You had your chance and spent it worried about violent criminals and illegal immigrants and didn't give a fuck about the average American. You lost and now your party is a minimum of 4 years away from even having a say. Just shut the fuck up for a while and let the grown ups work. You guys have had long enough to play make believe.

slcpunk
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slcpunk wrote:
Randall Flagg wrote:

Your party did nothing for 8 years besides pass Obamacare and wreck the insurance industry. .

It's funny you talk about liberal "talking points" and then throw this out every couple of weeks. Do you sincerely believe this?

PaSnow
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PaSnow wrote:
Randall Flagg wrote:

You all were jerking each other off because the father of a fallen soldier didn't want to shake Trump's hand. I've noticed you went fucking silent when his widow was in the audience Tuesday standing next to Ivanka.

I totally felt that backfired.  Trump sat his pretty, spoiled daughter running her million dollar company using cheap foreign labor next to her. The girl hasn't worked a hard day in her life. Then there's the Seals wife, who sacrificed everything and had an emotional breakdown live. She looked like she was questioning if she was doing the right thing by attending. Ivanka looked clueless and didn't know at all what to do.  Really, she got shoved aside. The moment was spiritual, and emotional, and shows the value and sacrifice of even 1 live lost.

Trump talks hard about invading the Middle East, invading North Korea etc.  Big talk from a chump who got Billionaire's Deferments and who's adult son's are using Secret Service for their business travels (HINT: It's "optional" for adult offspring. Ronald Reagan Jr declined it).

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/how-much-do … taxpayers/

slcpunk
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slcpunk wrote:

Looks like the Russian Foreign Ministry Spokeswoman has Trump talking points down!

Paul Ryan could care less....

PaSnow
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PaSnow wrote:

Recusal:  https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpos … dd387bef93

Attorney General Jeff Sessions will recuse himself from any probe related to 2016 presidential campaign

mitchejw
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mitchejw wrote:
Randall Flagg wrote:
misterID wrote:
Randall Flagg wrote:

I know right.  Lynch can get caught having a secret meeting in a hangar with the husband of someone under investigation by the FBI and Democrats will find nothing amiss, but Sessions shakes someone's hand at a public meeting and all of a sudden he's guilty of treason.  It's funny how inane and illogical one of our major party's are.  It's not like they put the father of a mass shooter on stage or the mother of an attempted cop killer on stage...oh wait.  Why do people take the DNC serious again?

Lynch recused herself from investigations voluntarily. She never denied meeting with him. She never lied under oath. Jeff Sessions spoke to the Russian ambassador twice. He also pursued impeachment of Bill Clinton for lying under oath.


When did she recuse herself?  It wasn't right away. And no, Sessions didn't. Quit lying or buying liberal talking points. Sessions was asked under oath if he discussed the election with any foreign governments. Do you have any evidence his handshake involved discussing the election.

This is why your party is at its weakest point nationwide in over 100 years. You scream foul at the wind and pretend mentally ill people can really change their stripes.

You have the audacity to get worked up about Jewish cemeteries and blame Trump, but your party just appointed an openly anti Semitic, black nationalist as its number 2. No one who doesn't have their head shoved up their ass thinks your party has a single valid idea for moving forward. They're on fucking TV hand and hand with convicted felons and drug dealers, saying it's inhuman we're kicking them out for violating our laws.  You never see a Democrat standing with the widow of a police officer who was killed by a gang banger, but they'll sure as shit drag out the mother of a gang banger shot by a cop.

You all were jerking each other off because the father of a fallen soldier didn't want to shake Trump's hand. I've noticed you went fucking silent when his widow was in the audience Tuesday standing next to Ivanka.

Your party did nothing for 8 years besides pass Obamacare and wreck the insurance industry. Yes, even your beloved Bill Clinton said as much.

You had your chance and spent it worried about violent criminals and illegal immigrants and didn't give a fuck about the average American. You lost and now your party is a minimum of 4 years away from even having a say. Just shut the fuck up for a while and let the grown ups work. You guys have had long enough to play make believe.

A childish response from a childish perspective...

I don't even know where to begin so I won't.

misterID
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Re: US Politics Thread

misterID wrote:
Randall Flagg wrote:
misterID wrote:
Randall Flagg wrote:

I know right.  Lynch can get caught having a secret meeting in a hangar with the husband of someone under investigation by the FBI and Democrats will find nothing amiss, but Sessions shakes someone's hand at a public meeting and all of a sudden he's guilty of treason.  It's funny how inane and illogical one of our major party's are.  It's not like they put the father of a mass shooter on stage or the mother of an attempted cop killer on stage...oh wait.  Why do people take the DNC serious again?

Lynch recused herself from investigations voluntarily. She never denied meeting with him. She never lied under oath. Jeff Sessions spoke to the Russian ambassador twice. He also pursued impeachment of Bill Clinton for lying under oath.


When did she recuse herself?  It wasn't right away. And no, Sessions didn't. Quit lying or buying liberal talking points. Sessions was asked under oath if he discussed the election with any foreign governments. Do you have any evidence his handshake involved discussing the election.

This is why your party is at its weakest point nationwide in over 100 years. You scream foul at the wind and pretend mentally ill people can really change their stripes.

You have the audacity to get worked up about Jewish cemeteries and blame Trump, but your party just appointed an openly anti Semitic, black nationalist as its number 2. No one who doesn't have their head shoved up their ass thinks your party has a single valid idea for moving forward. They're on fucking TV hand and hand with convicted felons and drug dealers, saying it's inhuman we're kicking them out for violating our laws.  You never see a Democrat standing with the widow of a police officer who was killed by a gang banger, but they'll sure as shit drag out the mother of a gang banger shot by a cop.

You all were jerking each other off because the father of a fallen soldier didn't want to shake Trump's hand. I've noticed you went fucking silent when his widow was in the audience Tuesday standing next to Ivanka.

Your party did nothing for 8 years besides pass Obamacare and wreck the insurance industry. Yes, even your beloved Bill Clinton said as much.

You had your chance and spent it worried about violent criminals and illegal immigrants and didn't give a fuck about the average American. You lost and now your party is a minimum of 4 years away from even having a say. Just shut the fuck up for a while and let the grown ups work. You guys have had long enough to play make believe.

Who is having yet another temper tantrum here? And don't call me a liar. Be a grown up and look it up. It's not hard. I haven't screamed foul, I have never mentioned anything about Jewish cemeteries. You're the one here lying, making up arguments, continuing to get riled up over a guy you didn't vote for who is painfully obviously either compromised by Russia or is really that much of a greedy, self absorbed idiot with a disturbing infatuation with Putin.

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