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slashsfro
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Re: ARod tested positive for steroids in 2003

slashsfro wrote:

In 2003, when he won the American League home run title and the AL Most Valuable Player award as a shortstop for the Texas Rangers, Alex Rodriguez tested positive for two anabolic steroids, four sources have independently told Sports Illustrated.

Rodriguez's name appears on a list of 104 players who tested positive for performance-enhancing drugs in Major League Baseball's '03 survey testing, SI's sources say. As part of a joint agreement with the MLB Players Association, the testing was conducted to determine if it was necessary to impose mandatory random drug testing across the major leagues in 2004.

When approached by an SI reporter on Thursday at a gym in Miami, Rodriguez declined to discuss his 2003 test results. "You'll have to talk to the union," said Rodriguez, the Yankees' third baseman since his trade to New York in February 2004. When asked if there was an explanation for his positive test, he said, "I'm not saying anything."

Phone messages left by SI for players' union executive director Donald Fehr were not returned.

Though MLB's drug policy has expressly prohibited the use of steroids without a valid prescription since 1991, there were no penalties for a positive test in 2003. The results of that year's survey testing of 1,198 players were meant to be anonymous under the agreement between the commissioner's office and the players association. Rodriguez's testing information was found, however, after federal agents, armed with search warrants, seized the '03 test results from Comprehensive Drug Testing, Inc., of Long Beach, Calif., one of two labs used by MLB in connection with that year's survey testing. The seizure took place in April 2004 as part of the government's investigation into 10 major league players linked to the BALCO scandal -- though Rodriguez himself has never been connected to BALCO.

The list of the 104 players whose urine samples tested positive is under seal in California. However, two sources familiar with the evidence that the government has gathered in its investigation of steroid use in baseball and two other sources with knowledge of the testing results have told Sports Illustrated that Rodriguez is one of the 104 players identified as having tested positive, in his case for testosterone and an anabolic steroid known by the brand name Primobolan. All four sources spoke on the condition of anonymity due to the sensitive nature of the evidence.

Primobolan, which is also known by the chemical name methenolone, is an injected or orally administered drug that is more expensive than most steroids. (A 12-week cycle can cost $500.) It improves strength and maintains lean muscle with minimal bulk development, according to steroid experts, and has relatively few side effects. Kirk Radomski, the former New York Mets clubhouse employee who in 2007 pleaded guilty to illegal distribution of steroids to numerous major league players, described in his recent book, Bases Loaded: The Inside Story of the Steroid Era in Baseball by the Central Figure in the Mitchell Report, how players increasingly turned to drugs such as Primobolan in 2003, in part to avoid detection in testing. Primobolan is detectable for a shorter period of time than the steroid previously favored by players, Deca-Durabolin. According to a search of FDA records, Primobolan is not an approved prescription drug in the United States, nor was it in 2003. (Testosterone can be taken legally with an appropriate medical prescription.)

Rodriguez finished the 2003 season by winning his third straight league home run title (with 47) and the first of his three MVP awards.

Because more than 5% of big leaguers had tested positive in 2003, baseball instituted a mandatory random-testing program, with penalties, in '04. According to the 2007 Mitchell Report on steroid use in baseball, in September 2004, Gene Orza, the chief operating officer of the players' union, violated an agreement with MLB by tipping off a player (not named in the report) about an upcoming, supposedly unannounced drug test. Three major league players who spoke to SI said that Rodriguez was also tipped by Orza in early September 2004 that he would be tested later that month. Rodriguez declined to respond on Thursday when asked about the warning Orza provided him.

When Orza was asked on Friday in the union's New York City office about the tipping allegations, he told a reporter, "I'm not interested in discussing this information with you."

Anticipating that the 33-year-old Rodriguez, who has 553 career home runs, could become the game's alltime home run king, the Yankees signed him in November 2007 to a 10-year, incentive-laden deal that could be worth as much as $305 million. Rodriguez is reportedly guaranteed $275 million and could receive a $6 million bonus each time he ties one of the four players at the top of the list: Willie Mays (660), Babe Ruth (714), Hank Aaron (755) and Barry Bonds (762), and an additional $6 million for passing Bonds. In order to receive the incentive money, the contract reportedly requires Rodriguez to make extra promotional appearances and sign memorabilia for the Yankees as part of a marketing plan surrounding his pursuit of Bonds's record. Two sources familiar with Rodriguez's contract told SI that there is no language about steroids in the contract that would put Rodriguez at risk of losing money.

Arguments before an 11-judge panel in the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit in Pasadena are ongoing between government prosecutors and the players' association over the government's seizure of the test results from the Long Beach lab. The agents who collected the material had a search warrant only for the results for the 10 BALCO-linked players. Attorneys from the union argue that the government is entitled only to the results for those players, not the entire list. If the court sides with the union, federal authorities may be barred from using the positive survey test results of non-BALCO players such as Rodriguez in their ongoing investigations.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/b … ml?eref=T1

Wow! I thought he was one of the few who was clean.  I guess Canseco gets vindicated again.

There's also this denial from Arod in 2007 that he ever used PED, HGH and steroids.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/12/ … 7425.shtml

tejastech08
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Re: ARod tested positive for steroids in 2003

tejastech08 wrote:

Unbelievable. Well the list of clean great players of this generation continues getting narrower and narrower. Assuming he was clean, Griffey is looking really good next to Bonds and A-Rod. In fact, he's the best home run hitter of his generation if he was clean. Too bad he had a ton of injuries.

BLS-Pride
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Re: ARod tested positive for steroids in 2003

BLS-Pride wrote:

Ken Griffey Jr is the best baseball player of our generation. He never took roids. I would eat my own shit if he did. I personally think he the true home run king of the modern era of baseball.

tejastech08
 Rep: 194 

Re: ARod tested positive for steroids in 2003

tejastech08 wrote:
BLS-Pride wrote:

Ken Griffey Jr is the best baseball player of our generation. He never took roids. I would eat my own shit if he did. I personally think he the true home run king of the modern era of baseball.

You never know. Griffey is my favorite player but I never thought A-Rod would cheat and it turns out he did. And now my suspicion is very high for Albert Pujols, who has about twice as much muscle on him as A-Rod.

BLS-Pride
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Re: ARod tested positive for steroids in 2003

BLS-Pride wrote:

Griffey never beefed up though. And he has been hurt so much these past few seasons he could have used them to come back stronger than ever and obviously he didn't. A-Rod did beef up through out his career and this past season when some were saying he might have took them he dropped a lot of weight.

tejastech08
 Rep: 194 

Re: ARod tested positive for steroids in 2003

tejastech08 wrote:
BLS-Pride wrote:

Griffey never beefed up though. And he has been hurt so much these past few seasons he could have used them to come back stronger than ever and obviously he didn't. A-Rod did beer up and this past season when some were saying he might have took them he dropped a lot of weight.

It is true that Junior never muscled up like other players. The only thing that got bigger was his gut, which is only natural with age. And you are right, roids would have helped him overcome all those season-ending injuries he had to deal with while he was on the Reds. I feel bad for him. But hey, hopefully history will remember him in a better light than these other guys, even if they do end up with better numbers than him. I feel bad for Hank. He risked his life to break Ruth's record. The amount of racist death threats he dealt with while chasing Ruth's record was as bad as what Jackie Robinson went through, if not even worse. And yet now he gets to see these cheating assholes breaking his record. It's disgusting when you think about it.

buzzsaw
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Re: ARod tested positive for steroids in 2003

buzzsaw wrote:
BLS-Pride wrote:

Ken Griffey Jr is the best baseball player of our generation. He never took roids. I would eat my own shit if he did. I personally think he the true home run king of the modern era of baseball.

Frank Thomas was just as good of a hitter (if not better) than Griffey throughout the 90s until he got hurt.  The edge for Griffey is that he played CF most of his career.

BLS-Pride
 Rep: 212 

Re: ARod tested positive for steroids in 2003

BLS-Pride wrote:
buzzsaw wrote:
BLS-Pride wrote:

Ken Griffey Jr is the best baseball player of our generation. He never took roids. I would eat my own shit if he did. I personally think he the true home run king of the modern era of baseball.

Frank Thomas was just as good of a hitter (if not better) than Griffey throughout the 90s until he got hurt.  The edge for Griffey is that he played CF most of his career.

Yeah but hitting isn't the only thing to be considered the best. Ken Griffey was a 5 tool player. The big hurt was not.

NY Giants82
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Re: ARod tested positive for steroids in 2003

NY Giants82 wrote:

Griffey and Thomas were bother GREAT players in the 90s. I believe both were clean, especially Griffey. He certainly never had the body of a roider.

Now Pujols, I have always had my suspicions. Prototypical body of a roid user from the head down.

tejastech08
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Re: ARod tested positive for steroids in 2003

tejastech08 wrote:
NY Giants82 wrote:

Griffey and Thomas were bother GREAT players in the 90s. I believe both were clean, especially Griffey. He certainly never had the body of a roider.

Now Pujols, I have always had my suspicions. Prototypical body of a roid user from the head down.

The other thing about Pujols is we don't even know if he's legitimately as young as he claims to be. There have been so many instances of players from Latin America lying about their ages that it's difficult to tell. The way he came out dominating even as a rookie makes me think he's a few years older than he claims. Tejada recently got busted for lying about his age. Wouldn't be a bit surprised if Pujols is too.

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