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IRISH OS1R1S
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Re: Wiki Leaks

IRISH OS1R1S wrote:

I found that poison pill article you posted interesting, this part really caught my eye, and surely rings true.

I have a strong feeling that the Chinese must be rejoicing at all the “retroactive law invention” that is going on in the West to put one man in jail.  Because if Assange had been a Chinese citizen promoting transparency in China we would be lining up to give him the Nobel Prize.

Stepvhen
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Stepvhen wrote:

Wow, powerful quote.

IRISH OS1R1S
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Re: Wiki Leaks

IRISH OS1R1S wrote:

Indeed.

I'm sure the majority of people on the opposing side would most definitely take said view if they would be willing to admit it honestly.

Stepvhen
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Stepvhen wrote:

mmmm I agree.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/worl … 090505.cms

Heres a link to the sex offenders hidden agenda shpeel

buzzsaw
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Re: Wiki Leaks

buzzsaw wrote:

I have no problem with wikileaks.  I have a problem with the people on here name calling instead of having a civil discussion when anybody questions anything they say.  It's not rude, it's ignorant, and considering how "enlightened" they are painting themselves as, you think they might try to show it instead of displaying pure ignorance.  I'm sure they will say it's some attempt to level the playing field or some pseudointellectual bullshit like that, but it's quite obvious they are completely incapable of anything remotely resembling intellectual conversation.

The gov't is going to do whatever they think they need to do.  He'd be dead in a minute if the US wanted it that way since he's not hiding in a cave somewhere.  I'm glad in some ways that the informaion is out there.  The problem is that nobody has enough information to really understand what's going on.  Instead they have ideas that are being spread by people with a major agenda and taking that information as the bible. 

If wikileaks was all about making information public, then why aren't they making all of it public?  If you're really interested in having a civil discussion, try to explain that without putting any spin or propaganda out there.

IRISH OS1R1S
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Re: Wiki Leaks

IRISH OS1R1S wrote:
Stepvhen wrote:

mmmm I agree.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/worl … 090505.cms

Heres a link to the sex offenders hidden agenda shpeel

Not surprising, in fact kinda obvious with the timing and all.

Stepvhen
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Re: Wiki Leaks

Stepvhen wrote:

Yeah it's pretty transparent just nice to see it acknowledged ya know. There are so many just glossing over all of this, as though the charges weren't dropped months ago.


I didn't even think you could be charged with the same crime choice. Don't think you can over here.

IRISH OS1R1S
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Re: Wiki Leaks

IRISH OS1R1S wrote:
buzzsaw wrote:

I have no problem with wikileaks.  I have a problem with the people on here name calling instead of having a civil discussion when anybody questions anything they say.  It's not rude, it's ignorant, and considering how "enlightened" they are painting themselves as, you think they might try to show it instead of displaying pure ignorance.  I'm sure they will say it's some attempt to level the playing field or some pseudointellectual bullshit like that, but it's quite obvious they are completely incapable of anything remotely resembling intellectual conversation.

I agree 100% with you here.
I tend to lurk more on this site as I'm a very shy person generally, I was particularily interested with this topic so decided to post some of my opinions. I feel like when people (s) get insulting not only does it bring the thread off topic, but I feel like not wanting to post anymore as not to be dragged into it.

This is not aimed at just one person in this thread either, just so you guys know I'm not taking sides.

Glad we are back to being civil.

Stepvhen
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Stepvhen wrote:

Man I gotta say. RTE are really really being a bag of cunts about this too. Have you seen the Irish stuff? Fucking insane

Immunity for Church sex offenders
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article … tican.html

Sinn fein leaders aware of Northern Ireland bank heist (Fucking Gerry Adams)
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2010 … thern-bank

^^That one was kind of obvious but its good that its official.

IRA use boom to go straight
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2010/dec/1 … m-business

^^That ones pretty damn obvious too.

Stuff on Michael Stone the guy who went to the funeral with the grenades and machine guns)
http://www.allvoices.com/contributed-ne … ion-squads

MI5 in the Finucane inquiry:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2010/dec/1 … k-finucane


So much dirty bank stuff has been taken down from mainstream news.

There was a shitload more on the IRA too

Stepvhen
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Re: Wiki Leaks

Stepvhen wrote:
IRISH OS1R1S wrote:

This is not aimed at just one person in this thread either, just so you guys know I'm not taking sides.

Cool man, I just really get into this shit. To be honest Ireland have been up to some fucked up shit.


This one though !!!! I like this one


Wikileaks: Ireland prevented US arms transfers to Israel
http://www.jpost.com/International/Arti … ?id=197626

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