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- Bill Brasky
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Re: Tracks missing from the leaked CD's
You're not taking it on face value, you're warping it to fit your narrative.
As for the "document", it purports to be from Engel & Engel, that doesn't make it so. Could very easily be another fake, though I don't have a strong opinion one way or the other.
How am i not taking Axl Rose's quote on face value ? I haven't changed or tried to interpret it any other way then it's bluntly written.
Purports to be from Engel & Engel lmfao ok why would someone fake it what's the benefit ?
How many people in the gnr community would even know the Engel & Engel firm and what significance it would hold during that era for gnr ?
- metallex78
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Re: Tracks missing from the leaked CD's
I also want to add the Village version of Hardschool was superior to reunion era version.
I'm always perplexed by this statement. There is no way in hell that the nuGNR Hardschool was the better than the Slash/Duff version
- Bill Brasky
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Re: Tracks missing from the leaked CD's
Bill Brasky wrote:I also want to add the Village version of Hardschool was superior to reunion era version.
I'm always perplexed by this statement. There is no way in hell that the nuGNR Hardschool was the better than the Slash/Duff version
Here's why i believe that. I love village session intro it just builds until it kicks in. Axl voice in my opinion is better in the mix and production on the village session demo then the reunion era copy and paste a mania version.
Both versions seem like they needed additional lines of vocals.
But that's my opinion.
Re: Tracks missing from the leaked CD's
While I do think the list is legitimate as the "Engel & Engel" thing seems way too elaborate for a quick fake, I question why everyone assumes it's the B-List of songs. It says Exhibit B. If it's a legal document using legal language, chances are high that exhibit A is something completely different like a studio contract for instance. The heading here is subject masters - not B-List. And as much as I wish it were otherwise, just because there is a master of something, doesn't mean that there are vocals
- Bill Brasky
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Re: Tracks missing from the leaked CD's
While I do think the list is legitimate as the "Engel & Engel" thing seems way too elaborate for a quick fake, I question why everyone assumes it's the B-List of songs. It says Exhibit B. If it's a legal document using legal language, chances are high that exhibit A is something completely different like a studio contract for instance. The heading here is subject masters - not B-List. And as much as I wish it were otherwise, just because there is a master of something, doesn't mean that there are vocals
Thats valid with fair points.
I clearly am basing on a hypothesis.
I believe those engel & engel fax documents will provide more insight to the actual plan back in 2001 and what was recorded by then.
For there to be a subject matter b masters you would imagine there's a subject a masters due to the missing songs not the subject master b list.
Re: Tracks missing from the leaked CD's
For there to be a subject matter b masters you would imagine there's a subject a masters due to the missing songs not the subject master b list.
But that's exactly my point. It does not say B-Masters. It just says Masters. Maybe that's just a list of songs that were worked on in a specific studio, or by a specific person. That would easily explain why some songs are missing.
- Bill Brasky
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Re: Tracks missing from the leaked CD's
Bill Brasky wrote:For there to be a subject matter b masters you would imagine there's a subject a masters due to the missing songs not the subject master b list.
But that's exactly my point. It does not say B-Masters. It just says Masters. Maybe that's just a list of songs that were worked on in a specific studio, or by a specific person. That would easily explain why some songs are missing.
The legal fax documents are from mid November to late December 2001.
It's from Tom Zutaut's storage locker and the image of the fax document was uploaded by Robert Bird to Ebay.
Just for clarification.
