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#2 Re: Guns N' Roses » Will new music be released in 2019? » 3 weeks ago

Yeah, I wouldn't expect a full album outright.

More like one or a few tracks to test the waters; one brand-new, one from CD2, maybe.

#3 Re: Guns N' Roses » 2019 tour date announced » 3 weeks ago

sp1at wrote:

New material is being worked on.

That begs the question, whether it's new or new like CD2.

Can also be both. Slash and Duff can punch up rockers for Ax to tinker with. On the other hand, Ax has a lot of creative energy and effort invested in the CD2 material, which he would like to release eventually.

#4 Re: Guns N' Roses » 2019 tour date announced » 3 weeks ago

metallex78 wrote:
sp1at wrote:

April ya see. Take what they are saying with a pinch of salt. Recording has happened, and is happening.

Obviously, the band don't have a good track record, but at least the intention is there for now

So what exactly is that meant to mean...? Are they NOT recording new Guns music?

Sure they are, and have recently, it seems. Axl only works under the Guns banner.

Just that, lot of recording happened in '98-'02, without an album for another six years.

Recording music and releasing it are two different stories with this band, as you well know.

#5 Re: Guns N' Roses » Do you believe new Guns N' Roses music will be released in 2018? » 8 weeks ago

Wagszilla wrote:
apex-twin wrote:

"...when I go up those stairs I become the hand of Caesar, ready to crush all those who challenge his authority.." - Pontius Pilate, Ben-Hur

It lends some credence to some of my CD theme theories and links nicely to the Red Hand album cover.

Do note that it's just a quote I picked up based on the description. Haven't actually heard the track wink

Wagszilla wrote:
apex-twin wrote:

I gather it was conceived before HOB 2001, when the band was relocated to Village Studios with Roy Thomas Baker and new songs were requested.

If you believe it's the "song about child abuse", it was in-the-works and ready enough for press gossip in January 2001.

The vocal would be Beavan session in the vein of Prostitute.

Debatable. Brain came into the band roundabout in May 2000, when Beavan was on his way out, with 35+ tracks recorded, a good bunch of them with Axl vox. It's harder to say when the vocal work started on the new Brain/RTB tracks. Ax has said during the Beavan era that he wanted to do the vocals last, with everything else in place. That, and The General's Chicken being (according to their resident hypeman and airhead, Baz) a sequel to Estranged and a track on the proposed third album, could suggest he dragged his feet with the vocals beyond RTB's tenure.

dalethirsty wrote:
apex-twin wrote:

Brain actually turned in a whole bunch of "weird" songs, one of which led RTB to ask, "What is this, reggae?"

what's the story here?

That. Brain talks about the track more in the interview, but I didn't bother to type it up, as it's one of those scrapped Guns tracks, which reverted back to him. I understand it's going to be released soon.

You can hear it all from Brain, at about 50mins into this interview: https://www.spreaker.com/user/theafdsho … hinese-dem

#6 Re: Guns N' Roses » Do you believe new Guns N' Roses music will be released in 2018? » 8 weeks ago

So, we can chalk The General and Seven in the same batch of songs as Shackler and Sorry. All those originated from Brain and friends.

The others guys involved with The General were, according to Brain, Marv "Mirv" Haggard from Limbomaniacs and Extrakd.

I gather it was conceived before HOB 2001, when the band was relocated to Village Studios with Roy Thomas Baker and new songs were requested.

Brain actually turned in a whole bunch of "weird" songs, one of which led RTB to ask, "What is this, reggae?"

But Axl wrote lyrics and sang on the General, over that "slow, grinding riff" and asked Beltrami to work on it, later even using it as a show intro.

"...when I go up those stairs I become the hand of Caesar, ready to crush all those who challenge his authority.." - Pontius Pilate, Ben-Hur

#7 Re: Guns N' Roses » Richard: 'Get An Album Out Soon' » 9 weeks ago

elevendayempire wrote:

It's a bit disingenuous to paint Axl as the one thing holding the band back, when there were an awful lot of complicating factors snarling up the release of Chinese Democracy (and CDII).

There's more to the story, for sure. My remark was merely made in jest, referring to the UYI recordings, where the basic tracks were laid out quickly and Ax then spent a lot of time just tweaking (November Rain, anyone?).

elevendayempire wrote:

We (pretty much) know Axl has all the songs from Chinese Democracy II ready to go bar some overdubs from Slash and Duff, which they could rattle out in a week if needs be.

Objectively, yes. This seems to be the case, for all we know.


Having said all that, Ax owns the band name, the assets, the works. He & Merck plunged into the 2006 tour to make money to cover recording costs and to hopefully push the label to an agreement. It was, all n' all, a gamble that left the fans high n' dry with a March 6th release date. That stalemate was only resolved by Azoff a year later.

And what happened in 2002? Ax had the RTB/Zutaut album version in the can, and he mounted the big comeback tour (in the works some time since the RIR3 show). Only there was to be no album and the tour was cancelled. Riots, poor ticket sales (partially due to bad routing), Ax deciding he's sick and (apparently) his handlers holding out hope until the warm-up acts wrapped up in Philly. Just another example of things getting out of hand in a lousy way.

Either Ax took some dodgy council, between Yoda and the yes-man(agement), or his anxieties got the better of him time and again, so that he repeatedly found the band effort compromised. The label has surely been a part of the problem with their one-eyed approach, but that hardly exonerates Ax for all the screw-ups and mismanagement that have surrounded this band for decades.

I believe things are different now only when another album drops or leaks.

#8 Re: Guns N' Roses » Richard: 'Get An Album Out Soon' » 9 weeks ago

Sky Dog wrote:

Hard to gauge how someone really feels when there is no communication with the outside world.

No rants on stage, Twitter or in press releases? Axl surely makes his ire well-known. He's been a lot more appeased now.

"Not In This Lifetime is now widely believed to be the second-highest-grossing tour of all time, having generated more than $500 million since it began three years ago."

Sky Dog wrote:

I wonder how he feels about the wonder twins and their focus on “side projects” instead of 100% Gnr like him?

Likely not much.

They'd need a week to record stuff which he'd tinker with from months to years. It's better for them to do their own thing while he muses on his next step.

As for Fortus, somebody should tell him Axl never knew if soon's the word tongue

#9 Re: Dust N' Bones & Cyborg Slunks » Buckethead 2017 tour » 9 weeks ago

Bucket's involved in a pretty neat little project - a new megawad (or really, an episode) for the classic shooter DOOM, by original designer John Romero. Called SIGIL, the megawad will (supposedly) be available free of charge in April, whereas the commercial box set will include a soundtrack by Bucket. Regrettably, there appears to be no digital download for the SIGIL OST.

https://www.romerogames.ie/sigil/

#10 Re: Guns N' Roses » Richard: 'Get An Album Out Soon' » 9 weeks ago

Well, Axl's chirpier and he owns the band, undisputedly. Slash and Duff are happy to be involved.

Means squat for an album, but the atmosphere in the band is prolly the best since... 1988?

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