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#1 Re: Guns N' Roses » The General and Monsters » 16 weeks ago

Shacklermyrye wrote:

Don't you kind of feel like there the same song split into 2 parts? That old tour intro is in both songs. Monsters is far better I agree.

I've seen some say it was one song originally and they decided to turn it into two songs. I really don't know.

Me personally, I think the songs are very different, while having some similarities. Just like State of Grace has some similarities with Monsters, but is still very different.

My guess would be that Monsters was known as Soul Monster, which if true, would mean it and The General have been separate songs for as long as we've heard about them.

#2 Re: Guns N' Roses » The General and Monsters » 16 weeks ago

Bill Brasky wrote:

Monster is good,  the general is so bad lyrically.  What a disappointment.

I love Monsters. The General is growing on me. Monsters far more memorable though. I forget what The General sounds like as soon as it's over. But while I'm listening to The General, I do enjoy it.

#3 Re: Guns N' Roses » Perhaps (2023) to Drop » 26 weeks ago

AgesOfTheIce wrote:
mister saint laurent wrote:

Perhaps just charted. #29 at US rock radio. So technically, it's already a hit.

You clearly have a very liberal definition of hit.

Most bands would kill top have a top 30 hit at radio.

And the song is just getting started. The radio campaign will likely last a few months. A good start is a good start. Let's see how fast it can crack the top 20 and then hopefully crack the top 10 like Hard Skool did.

Anything that cracks the top 40 is considered a hit. There are thousands of bands trying to get their song on the radio.

#4 Re: Guns N' Roses » Perhaps (2023) to Drop » 26 weeks ago

Perhaps just charted. #29 at US rock radio. So technically, it's already a hit.

#5 Re: Guns N' Roses » The General confirmed next » 26 weeks ago

Dadud wrote:

If the general is over 6min long I'm sure the vinyl version will be a radio edit or something with a truncated intro. I mean judging by the old show intro that alone takes up 2ish minutes. If the full intro survived release, I'm sure it'll have it on streaming.

It's the full 8m 53s LP version of November Rain on all the 7" singles back in the day.

You should be ashamed for banning me.

#6 Re: Guns N' Roses » The General confirmed next » 26 weeks ago

Shacklermyrye wrote:

So i confess my knowledge of records is slim (i grew up with cassette's and CD's) but if this is right...

7" Records (often referred to as 45's) can be cut at 45 RPM or 33 1/3 RPM. When cut at 33 1/3 you can hold approximately 6:00 minutes per side. When cut at 45 you can hold approximately 4:30 minutes per side. These numbers are not set in stone, just a suggested maximum. Going over these suggestions can result in a loss of sound quality. https://www.urpressing.com/7-inch/

That means The General is probably under 6 min.


November Rain was obviously a big hit single and released on vinyl around the world back in 1992. It's an 8 minute and 53 second song, but was released as 45rpm in most markets. A few released it in 33 1/3rpm.

I believe the US, UK, Germany and France were 45rpm and Spain and Australia were 33 1/3rpm.

#7 Re: Guns N' Roses » Perhaps (2023) to Drop » 27 weeks ago

Shacklermyrye wrote:
mister saint laurent wrote:

Went to a local restaurant tonight and listened to Perhaps on the jukebox for an hour straight. After 15 listens I can say I much prefer it to the demo and deleted the demo as soon as I got home.

After 15 listens the other people there must have been ready to kill you lol. How did the production sound? was it an improvement over the last two?

I got there about an hour before closing. After the song played the second time in a row, people started looking around and looking annoyed. So I went outside to the patio, which was completely empty and quiet, and had a better quality speaker than the speakers inside. So I hit outside in the dark sitting under the speaker for the next 13 listens. I could see through the window that people were getting pissed, but nobody could see me.

Production sounded great. I could never listen to the demo again. The finished version is so much better and I really liked Slash's solo.

#8 Re: Guns N' Roses » Perhaps (2023) to Drop » 27 weeks ago

Went to a local restaurant tonight and listened to Perhaps on the jukebox for an hour straight. After 15 listens I can say I much prefer it to the demo and deleted the demo as soon as I got home.

#9 Re: Guns N' Roses » If GNR releases nothing in 2023, is this the end for you? » 28 weeks ago

Bluefish - I miss the velvet rope very much and remember those days fondly. I learned a lot there, but you're right that some people may not have loved being corrected when it came to GNR info.


James - The velvet rope stuff was fairly tame in the grand scheme of things. I just rubbed people the wrong way like I tend to do on most forums.

Just like the label delayed Chinese numerous times in hopes they could force a reunion first, the follow up to Chinese also suffered a similar fate. There were definitely times the band wanted to get it out and the label stalled in an effort to wait for a reunion. Which ultimately is what happened.

#10 Re: Guns N' Roses » If GNR releases nothing in 2023, is this the end for you? » 28 weeks ago

James wrote:

Insider or not...it's good to see you again. Haven't seen you in what, 7 or 8.years?

Where does the time go

Yeah it's been a while. I never stopped being a GNR fanatic, I just haven't posted much on message boards. I still go to every tour and buy all of the CDs. I'm as excited for the 2023 tour and the release of more new music as I was as a kid waiting for UYI to come out.

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