I read it. It's damning. He asked a foreign nation to work with his private personal lawyer to dig up dirt on his political opponent.

Interesting if true. (She's a cnn wh reporter, so may have some insight/tips)

Despite his public defiance, Trump is not welcoming the impeachment fight, people say. He phoned Pelosi yesterday to discuss the whistleblower's complaint and was hoping he could de-escalate things. He later said he couldn't believe it when she made her announcement.

— Kaitlan Collins (@kaitlancollins) September 25, 2019

Sorry, I wasn't saying I didn't think it would sell, I was saying the 'label' maybe wasn't only saying that (ie. IMHO there were money/contract issues as well).

I think it woulda sold ok at the time, not put GnR back on top of the charts, but decent. Wish Axl & VR had a better battle. I think CD mighta been panned a bit, but looked back now as a better album than they received credit for

One thing I think alot of us are forgetting is money. TBH I'd forgotten about it until someone posted a link to a post from about 12 years ago here. I think there was a scenario, which I believe to be true, where Axl was fronted tons of money, yet wanted to renogotiate his contract, since he blew thru the money he was fronted. And the record company drew a line in the sand, and said 'No'.

IMHO belief, Axl was given a few million (guessing here) $2 million, then it was up to $5, then $10, then $13, then the label dumped it with little promotion.  I'd guess around 2002, there was 5-7 mil invested, and it was gone. Label said no more, Axl wanted to be paid upon release, hence a standoff where Axl 'somewhat refused' to deliver it until the received a reworking of his payday (2nd payday, since they already fronted him). Label prolly said nope, make your money up on tours and radio play royalties.

Anyway, I think we're selling the record companies a bit short by saying Axl handed in this gem of an album and bonehead record company execs said "Nope, this won't sell. It's all about STP, RHCP, Limp Bizkit nowadays".

Feel free to disagree, but there's a bit more to it in my mind.

The president is suing the government.

it's collapsing.