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#1061 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 295 weeks ago
So let me get this right, BigBri calls people hypocrites (rightfully) if they supported shutting out Garland in 2016, but is oblivious he's doing just that by demanding Trump not nominate a replacement, and McConnell not hold a vote. Mitch couldn't make a coherent statement if you put a gun to his head, and ID is trying really hard to at least look at things objectively. Irish is hit or miss, and Pa is waiting for the next story to shit talk Trump, and accept it blindly without a second guess.
Yea, nothing's really changed.
50/50 at this point, but I still think Trump pulls it off. You can't riot in the street for months, have one candidate literally bail them out to riot and hurt people, then pretend you have any authority on calling out others for inciting violence.
Sucks Ginsburg is dead. She was a genius jurist and one of the finest to sit the bench. But I'm glad she won't be one of the 9 anymore. If only "The Wise Latina (her words, not mine)" would vanish too.
And because I want to contribute as much intellectually as the rest of you....

#1062 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 295 weeks ago
You guys keep talking about me, guess I should appear like Beetlejuice.

#1063 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 302 weeks ago
Randall Flagg wrote:Yea, but no one takes Alex Jones seriously.
Nobody here, but your out of you're mind if you feel nobody in America takes him serious.
Obama's birth certificate.
Ted Cruz's Dad was connected to Oswald?
Obama founded ISIS.
Obama is signing a EO to take guns away (someone actually said that to me years ago)
Covid a hoax.Yeah, nobody takes him seriously.
https://media.vanityfair.com/photos/565 … -jones.jpg
There's what 330 million people in America. You think the guy that is universally known as a conspiracy theorist troll (they're making the frogs gay!) has any real impact on America? Especially compared to the left wing media that preached conspiracies about Russia? Alex Jones was a full on 9/11 truther too - who else shares his belief? The media calling the riots "peaceful demonstrations"? I think people should read what the 1st amendment protects, and then look of what peaceable means in the dictionary. Then compare that to the actions of far-left loons trying to burn down courthouses and tear down monuments in between tossing molotov cocktails, rocks and feces at police officers.
Yea, pizza gate was a crazy. Kind of like the Bernie Bro who shot up congress and wounded Scalise because he had read far left conspiracies. Of these rioters in our cities right now, who's bullshit are they buying up in truck loads? Is it Alex Jones or Don Lemon?
#1064 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 302 weeks ago
Prediction:
Mitch, I'm not responsible for your continued posting of false information because you can't be bothered to read the content of news articles. If you're going to blatantly post false information because you don't know any better, I'm not obligated to hold your hand and explain why you're wrong. I've done that countless times, and you refuse to read what is posted and go about your merry way being ignorant of the truth.
Result:
blah blah blah...wall of text...I'm not reading that...
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Again, why is this person here. He's not here to participate in any discussion. He doesn't read what people post, and then goes on and directly insults them. End this troll.
#1065 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 302 weeks ago
Mitch, I'm not responsible for your continued posting of false information because you can't be bothered to read the content of news articles. If you're going to blatantly post false information because you don't know any better, I'm not obligated to hold your hand and explain why you're wrong. I've done that countless times, and you refuse to read what is posted and go about your merry way being ignorant of the truth. You're responsible for your language and antagonistic posting, no one else. If you want to continue to behave like an asshole, that's on you and you alone are responsible for the consequences.
Yes, Alex Jones has an internet following and is openly mocked outside of that. Pretending the nonsense on MSNBC or CNN talking about Russian Collusion or Staying out of Office is something said by people in office isn't magnitudes more common and accepted than the crazy shit Jones said is completely disingenuous. I don't know of any congressman saying Sandy Hook is a hoax. I can find plenty that spread Russian disinformation and are worried Trump won't leave office if not re-elected.
Just like your stunt trying to link white supremacy to the BLM riots. Congratulations, you found one instance of thousands where a "Hell's Angel" allegedly was trying to start shit. You and the paper immediately dismiss that it was the BLM protesters who actually did the destruction there. As has been the case in thousands of instances across the country. Yet you continue to pretend Antifa isn't real, while trying to tie everything to white supremacist. You have an agenda, and you can't support it with objective facts and reasoning, so you find the 1/1000 examples and try to equate them as equal. I condemn the Hell's Angel and anyone destroying a city with violence. Why won't you condemn Antifa and those committing violence?
On that note, I'm going back to ignoring you since the admins won't enable that ignore feature I've been asking for for years. I have no interests in engaging with you directly. You've called me a racist, attacked my military service and disability and have called me everything but a white man. Then lie that I threatened defamation against you. I didn't, I said I wonder what your customers would think of your actual posts, so that's clearly not defamation in linking your own comments. But being truthful isn't something you're capable of. You view the world through the lens of a perpetual victim and you've demonstrated time and time again you're not capable of growth or participating at the intellectual level you demand others consider you part of.
So lash out at me, call me names. Post songs and memes. That's all you've ever done and it's all you'll ever do. But I'm not required to pretend your nonsense has any intellectual standing nor am I required to pretend reality doesn't exist. For someone who has called me Tucker Carlson every third post, you sure get bent out of shape when someone suggests that others may get all their information from left wing talking heads (as evidenced by their talking points and failure to understand real world events - like the DACA ruling for example).
#1066 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 302 weeks ago
misterID wrote:I think left wing comedy shows like the Daily Show and Right wing talk radio were the worst things to ever happen to politics and the national dialogue.
Dude, not disagreeing with you, but I watched Frontline on PBS last night about Alex Jones, it's crazy. Like, crazy people actually believe that shit. And ALOT of people do!! People were stalking and calling Sandy Hook parents. One father even moved, unlisted his #, and his listeners still tracked him down.
His lies were beyond crazy. It was almost funny, like in a Morton Downey Jr/Jerry Springer kindof way, but #pizzagate shows you people take action on that shit.
Yea, but no one takes Alex Jones seriously. He's been condemned and denounced as an agitator and was forced under oath to admit as much. Meanwhile, Russian collusion and Trump refusing to leave office conspiracies are accepted as reasonable in the left wing press. Maybe Polluxlm believed Alex Jones shit, but he's not here. Plenty of people are making posts about Trump not leaving office and they have plenty of mainstream media sources talking that nonsense.
As far as I can tell, the only people trying to delay elections have been Democratic governors. Some of which have already been spanked by federal courts.
#1067 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 302 weeks ago
mitchejw wrote:buzzsaw wrote:If DACA could be created legally by executive order, it would appear it can be stopped by executive order. If you think he's overreaching, Obama overreached creating it.
Then why bother with the Supreme Court?
Please tell me you don't think the Supreme Court rules based on law and not political leanings....
Also you should probably go back and understand what the ruling said.
You mean the court ruled that Trump has the power to rescind DACA, but said Trump acted "arbitrarily and capricious" without a hearing required for all public policy changes?(the political part you talked about)
You'd think people that think they had a victory or just want to be part of an informed discussion would actually read any news article that covered it, cause that was explained. But when you watch Trevor Noah and Don Lemon and think you're informed, you just embarrass yourself among those who are.
#1068 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 302 weeks ago
I was a staunch libertarian in my 20s. Then I realized allowing people to die on the streets due to lack of healthcare and food isn't productive to a civilized society. I respect and agree with the push for individual agency and accountability, but all that goes out the window when an angry mob is outside your door. Their presence is a reaction to those on the far left that want regulation and involvement in every aspect of human life.
#1069 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 302 weeks ago
Btw, BLM has been completely co-opted by spoiled, privileged white kids. The NAACP has now turned on the protesters for appropriating black causes/issues for their own means... But the media continues to justify and protect them. Where does this go?
Btw, how can you criticize one group not social distancing, but praise another? Does covid really care?
And why hasn't Joe condemned the violence? They just found a body burned to death in a building burnt in protests.
...And protesters would have fit pretty perfectly with the confederacy, so there's some irony there.
It's always been about spoiled, rich kids. Bored, rich white kids co-opting it isn't anything new. Remember Missou when this this whole thing started. A black grad student who was the son of a millionaire went on a hunger strike because allegedly some redneck drove through town and yelled the N word. And some student drew a swastika with shit in a stall. There was no evidence of any of this, but people accept it as true. That was the oppression that required the creation of safe spaces and the courageous hunger strike of the son of a multi-millionaire.
These people aren't protesters. They're rioters. Protesters don't launch explosive devices, Molotov cocktails, and bricks at police officers. Protesters don't try to storm police stations and federal buildings. Rioters do all of these things, and the extreme left is talking about defunding/removing police in the largest crime waive in decades.
A buddy of mine knew the guy in Austin who got wasted last night. He's shared all the facebook conversations. Guy was a total loon looking for conflict and had even given an interview moments before he was killed talking about using his AK on police and how everyone was a pussy to stand up to him. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
Biden won't condemn this violence because CNN, MSNBC, the Times and WaPo have refused to acknowledge the violence and created a narrative that all these rioters are good people standing up for racial injustice. If Biden calls out their violence, he's at direct odds with the media that is his only hope of winning the election. If Joe Biden has to give public speeches and express his ideas, he loses. He can't run as a moderate and as a far left loon if he's required to take a stance. So Biden remains mum, uninformed yokels bitch about the non-existent boogaloo boys as an existential threat, and completely ignore that the body count and damage from these rioters far exceed any of the examples they try to use as justification.
Black militia shows up in Louisville under false pretenses, and some moron has a negligent discharge that sends 3 to the hospital. Media is mum. White militia shows up across the country to protest lockdowns, no one is injured, but the media portrays them as the scum of the earth.
Normal people are getting fed up with it, and the media can't keep lying and omitting indefinitely. YouTube and social media have destroyed their monopoly on information, and anyone with 20 seconds can scan thousands of videos of the violence and damage wrought by these protesters. Their energy is the only thing Biden is clinging to in order to win in November. No one is excited about Joe Biden as a candidate.
#1070 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 303 weeks ago
James,
His reply to you is representative of every other posts he makes. He never once addressed your post. He talked about a subject completely different than what you asked because it allowed him to play a victim and completely ignore the inconsistencies of his demands and his own behavior. Mitch is here to argue with people that disagree with him, and is incapable of acting in good faith and having a genuine discussion. He invents a discussion, so he can get his kicks stirring the pot, and receiving or encouraging negative attention.
Mitch can't tell you he enjoys the discussion, because he knows he's not part of it. He's here to take out his anger on people who he labels as Trump supporters because he has an irrational hatred for anything he's willing to ascribe to them. He assumes to post as an authority on anything that could be construed as connected to racial disparity. He then unfairly labels others as bigots and racists, and dismisses any comment someone has made. He openly takes joy in mocking the effort of posters to dedicate time to a reasoned and lengthy response. I stepped away solely to prove that his behavior isn't related to any one or two posters. It's anyone who comes in here and disagrees with him, he antagonizes. This can't be allowed to continue if you admins are at all concerned of this site not becoming a complete toxic cesspit. The views on this thread alone account for a majority of site activity.
Buzz created a topic for a racial discussion. You'll notice that Mitch has completely abstained from participating, because the behavior and respect of every other poster is something he is incapable of participating in. Calling everyone a bigot or racist because of some unintelligible rant he narrates, won't win him any supporters there. You saw what happened in the COVID thread. He stated and continues to say that "we deserved this" because America elected Donald Trump. Nearly 150k dead, and this piece of work is allowed to inject this kind of vitriol into a discussion among reasonable adults? C'mon.
I'd love to say "tell him to stop", but he's had that done 4 or 5 times already, was banned, and then returned to do nothing but be toxic. I challenge you to find the posts where Mitch participates with any kind of effort or engagement in what the other poster actually said. He needs to go. This has nothing to do with his beliefs. No one on this forum agrees with my opinions. It has everything to do with his inability to participate in any meaningful way, and inability to do anything other than antagonize and goad.
He's incapable of recognizing his toxicity, or he intentionally relishes in it. Either way, it's destroying what's left of this place.
