Good performance, great song. I agree that noone can match Slash's playing in Estranged (including his live versions). As much as I like Bumble, who did 150% to save the RIR show, and learnt note by note the solos (unlike DJ), his version is too cold for me. He's a different player, yes, but he's just playing those melodies quite well, while in Slash's case it was coming from his heart. It's the same difference as the Axl vs. Myles performance. One can be technically a better musician, but he wasn't the fountain of the song, only a performer.

(Before anyone would start the 'vocals are more important than the music argument' - no it is not. For you, maybe. But there are just as many famous piano or violin solo players in the history of classical music, than singers. And it's not different when it comes to jazz or rock, which are the most music-orientated kinds of pop music. It's not f.ing 80s disco, when nobody cares who programmes the drum machine.)

This.

The most interesting thing about the 'Slash visiting Axl's house' episode is that fans forget the most important details.

1. After the visit Slash N' Duff dropped the lawsuit against Axl.

2. After the visit more and more rumours came about a reunion. (Download festival etc.)

3. The reunion is said to fall apart because of Axl Rose trying to trick the others out of old royalties.

3. The Axl camp made the visit public half a year after it had happened.

Do the math.

The who was drunk and who wasn't, who said what to who and when, and everything in Axl's press realease is just random manipulator bullshit.

It's been 'nu' since 1999. Had been, at least. Not 'nu' at all now, I agree, cause the 'nu' guys were replaced (except Chris). 'New' will work for you? Post-classic?

When even die-hard nu-band fans, like Russ, Olorin or DCK says Rio was extremely awful, then it was extremely awful. 90% of the posters saw a shockingly bad performance, while 10% saw 'the best show of their lives', a 'great show', or a 'not that bad show with some little mistakes'.

I felt sorry for you, Neemo, cause some of the attacks against you were mean - the only explanation is that the other 'blind and deaf' (sorry ) members are well-known Axl cultist, while you are regarded as an open minded, 'positive realist', honest person. And it seemed that we'd seen such a different show that no wonder people started to speculate.

I came to the conclusion some weeks ago that this band doesn't deserve too much energy, time or passion. I take every little positive thing as a gift, cause there is no need to worry about a middle-aged, crazy and bitter spoiled child's actions and non-actions. He used to be my hero and the time came when I learnt to accept that he is not a person I wanted him to be. Not even on an artistic level. So I expect much less from him (don't care about the band at all, but Bumble is a great guy, almost to a hero level), but this performance was so FUCKIN' BAD that I can't set my expectation that low to even accept this. Even a band that I have never liked would shock me with something like that.

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