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#1111 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 499 weeks ago
Maybe I shouldn't say this John, but I haven't noticed any difference at all. 
Voters diverge from media, keep Trump ahead
Voters on Friday diverged from the legacy media messaging that created a firestorm over GOP presidential candidate Donald Trump’s doubts whether he would accept the results of the 2016 election, keeping him ahead in polling, including a “substantial lead” among independents.
Real Clear Poltiics reported the IBD-TIPP tracking poll had Trump leading 41 percent to 40 percent, Rasmussen reports had Trump up 43-41 and the L.A. Times/USC Tracking had Trump ahead 45-44.
Only if one would assume that third party candidates Gary Johnson and Jill Stein would be removed from the ballot is Clinton ahead of Trump, then by a 43-41 margin, the surveys show.
The analysis of the IBD polling, which is a national poll of 789 likely voters and has a margin of error of 3.6 percentage points, explained that voters seemed unmoved by the mainstream media’s outrage over Trump’s statement that he would keep Wednesday night debate’s moderator “in suspense” about whether he would accept the results.
“Wednesday’s lively presidential debate featured a comment by Donald Trump to a question from Fox News moderator Chris Wallace, who asked whether Trump would respect the results of the Nov. 8 election if he feels the vote was fraudulent or ‘rigged.’
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“‘I’ll look at it at the time,’ Trump said. He added, ‘I’ll keep you in suspense.’
“‘Hillary called Trump’s words ‘terrifying,'” IBD commented.
“Yet, despite a media and political uproar over Trump’s comments – the New York Times’ piece Thursday ran under the headline ‘Donald Trump Vs. American Democracy,’ while the Huffington Post’s shouted ‘Trump’s Shocking Answer On Respecting Election Results Is The Only Debate Moment That Matters’ – voters didn’t appear to agree. The IBD/TIPP poll showed little if any erosion in Trump’s support.”
The analysis pointed out that the answers about economic policy, immigration, guns, abortion, the Supreme Court also didn’t change the results. Nor did the “personal barbs” tossed back and forth.
“What explains Trump’s continued lead? One key fact that has shown up in the three days of IBD-TIPP polling is that Trump holds a substantial 42 percent to 31 percent advantage over Clinton among independent voters.”
They generally are socially liberal but fiscally conservative – and they “now make up about 34 percent of the electorate.”
Rasmussen, which had Trump ahead 43-40 on Thursday and 43-41 on Friday, said, “A new high of 88 percent of voters now say they are certain how they will vote in this election. Among these voters, it’s Trump 48 percent, Clinton 47 percent, Johnson three percent and Stein two percent. Among voters who say they still could change their minds between now and election day, it’s Trump 38 percent, Trump 25 percent, Johnson 21 percent and Stein 16 percent.”
Rasmussen’s survey of 1,500 likely voters has a sample error rate of 2.5 percent.
The USC Dornsife/L.A. Times “Daybreak” poll, which polls about 3,000 eligible voters daily, on Friday had Donald Trump at 44.5 percent and Hillary Clinton at 43.8 percent.
Trump’s margin there has been increasing, even if only slightly, over recent days.
The polls are starting to reflect the impact of Wednesday’s debate, which appears so far to have been nominal.
#1112 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 499 weeks ago
Trump won`t win even if he has a popular support no matter how much or how loud he and his supporters will scream "rigged". Al Gore had a popular support as well, we all know how 2000 elections ended and who became President.
Liberal establishement and jewish lobby ( it may sound like a conspiracy theory but jewish lobby has power and influence over American Politics ), will never allow Trump be elected. It`s a done deal, Killary is the next President.
Don't be so sure, it has happened before. The elites are not all powerful.
#1113 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 499 weeks ago
Another one for the history books.
#1114 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 499 weeks ago
The debate
Trump some weak parts, some strong parts. Hillary weaker than usual, no high points.
From a strategy standpoint I think Trump won because he moved closer to his goal, which is to disprove the notion he is an unhinged sexual predator about to start WWIII. He could certainly have done better on that aspect, but all he needed to do was to make progress and I think he did. After all, the Hillary campaign is setting the bar pretty low for him. I think he gained a few evangelicals and hold your nose republicans tonight, and also eliminated some anti Trump votes.
Hillary on the other hand was still pushing the Trump is Hitler narrative, because she doesn't have any other angles. Either you're on that train already or you're not. Her policy talk is more Obama, more Bush, more establishment. Just more watered down and more corrupt. If you didn't buy that in the past you are definitely not buying it now.
Why did she even show up to this debate? To let the public hear truths about her that the press are currently shielding them from? To have her stand up straight for 90 minutes, which is clearly something she's struggling to do, while being pummeled by a bellicose ceo ? I think she showed up because she definitely fears the race isn't over and she needs the votes. And on that she gained nothing. Who wants to vote for Hillary? She is basically propped up by fear, fear of Trump. Ball is in his court.
#1115 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 499 weeks ago
pollux I find it hard to believe someone as much of a nut job as you, that you couldn't be bothered even googling the history of the person who posted the video.
What's your thoughts on Trump's wife saying Billy Bush egged Trump on to make those comments? Do you think think the Liberal media are forcing Trump to say the things he does at debates/rallies via mind control?
Like the Trump video it speaks for itself. When they have no other defense they attack the source.
Both have been fired, the words are in their mouths, now msm are starting to report it. It's real.
#1116 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 499 weeks ago
Part 2:
Scott Foval and Bob Creamer have now both been let go of the Hillary campaign.
#1117 Re: The Sunset Strip » The Video Game Console Thread » 499 weeks ago
The AI often gets helped by the game depending on the difficulty, but if you feel you aren't getting close to them in the stats on normal difficulty it might be a growth problem. The AI expands exponentially the bigger it gets, while humans sometimes have a tendency to stay linear. You should get a solid defense early so you can develop in peace, then use each city to pump out settlers and military forces. To win in science or domination you have to be huge. If you only win culturally that's a pretty sure sign your empire is too small.
You should try the Beyond the Sword mod for CIV IV if you haven't already. Fan made, but I think they even have it on Steam.
#1118 Re: The Sunset Strip » The Video Game Console Thread » 499 weeks ago
Civilization 6 coming out in a few days. First game I have really anticipated since...Civ 5. 
#1119 Re: The Sunset Strip » Rock hall of fame nominees » 499 weeks ago
Should be interesting in about 10 years when they run out of bands to nominate. Nickelback in the Hall?
ELO should have been there already.
#1120 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 499 weeks ago
Where is Hillary's talk on like a dozen issues?
For balance and all.
