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#1121 Re: Guns N' Roses » Guns n' Roses Assault Nostalgia With 'Rock in Rio' Return » 788 weeks ago

Yeah, Axl was the architect and Slash the designer.

Anyway, except the '30+ song setlist', his words echoes what I read on the forum. I've only seen Rocket Queen, that was shockingly bad. Been downloading the show for an hour, but there are many peers and only one seed.

#1122 Guns N' Roses » Guns n' Roses Assault Nostalgia With 'Rock in Rio' Return » 788 weeks ago

Mikkamakka
Replies: 11

Guns n' Roses Assault Nostalgia With 'Rock in Rio' Return

http://www.craveonline.com/music/articl … rio-return

GNR's first show of 2011 is a 30+ song marathon of errors and missed notes, with a side of nostalgia.

By Johnny FirecloudOctober 03, 20110

Guns N' Roses headlined the seventh and final night of the Rock In Rio festival in Rio De Janeiro, Brazil, closing out the festival with a 30-plus song music marathon that pushed the limits of our memories of the once-great Rock monsters.

Inactive since last December, the most recent Frankenstein incarnation of GNR have finally activated once more, and are setting their sites on the U.S. for a Fall tour. Those anticipating the upcoming shows looked to the Brazil performance as a good indicator of what to expect while watching it streamed worldwide, via YouTube. Sadly, the roaring firecracker frontman in Axl Rose is padded with middle-aged pudge, resulting in a great many out-of-breath moments and only token reminders of the soaring post-Slash incarnation that we saw in 2006.

When their planned setlist leaked hours before the performance, computer-savvy fans delighted at the sight of nearly 35 song (and four guitar-solo performances), which included most tracks from the band's original debut Appetite For Destruction, nearly every Chinese Democracy track and a few other gems. Naturally, as is the Axl Rose way, the band took to the stage two hours behind schedule, and the setlist was amputated as a result.

Taking to the stage in a yellow raincoat, black hat and sunglasses Axl ushered in the performance with the title track from Chinese Democracy, and immediately there were signs of trouble. Levels were wildly off, the vocals initially nonexistent, and the term "clumsy" came to mind far more than any other adjective. The stomach of this original-era GNR maniac twisted in knots as the notoriously reclusive frontman croaked and wheezed his way through the song - often with a backing track too high in the mix.



"Welcome to the Jungle" only made matters worse. Sounding often like an old lady doing karaoke while sprinting, Rose wailed "DO YOU KNOW WHERE THE F*CK YOU ARE?!"... as he stepped around the army of stagehands mopping the stage around him.

The elements weren't responsible for this failure, however, as guitarist Bumblefoot Thal's chosen attire for the evening - a Stormtrooper mask - fell down on his face and caused him to completely ruin the solo in three different spots because of it:


Similarly, solos were ruined on other classics, including a sacrilegious hacking of "Sweet Child O' Mine," while performances on some of the newer tracks were tighter - most notably the solo on Chinese Democracy track "Better," which former guitarist Robin Finck owned so thoroughly in the past.

After introducing his adoptive mom and sister in an awkward "Whose fault is it" moment that the crowd didn't really understand (he didn't address the guests as family), and an ensuing unwelcome Hip-Hop version of "Mr. Brownstone," the band delivered one of the night's only shining gems: "Estranged," the massive track from Use Your Illusion which hasn't been played live in nearly two decades, or since the song's architect, Slash, made his exit from the lineup.


With five minute James Bond theme instrumental indulgences acting as a gross misreading of audience interest, the band played out their disconnect to a crowd dissipating heavily amidst the rains, and the time (4am) pushing patience en masse. It was a staggered return for what used to be the world's most dangerous Rock band, and a testament to the level of inebriation an OG Guns N' Roses fan will have to subject his or herself to in order to scratch that itch of nostalgia for the incredible power that represented the final legitimate gasp of the glam rock era.

GNR were once gods, the only band to truly straddle the schism between the collapsed hair metal era and the grime rock generation that followed. It only worked for a time, before egos and control issues devoured the promise and mojo of the greatest collective to ever rock the Sunset Strip, leaving a generation of tattooed leathered copycats and venereal half-cocked celebrators in their stead. Now we have this, a faltering musical Frankenstein geared for arenas and big-budget productions, cold calculations for nostalgia mining. And with Axl's diminishing ability, perhaps we should be thankful we're not watching that band we remember from so long ago, coming apart at the seams as it rattles down rock's unforgiving gravel road.

#1123 Re: Guns N' Roses » Bumblefoot's Favorite UYI Song » 788 weeks ago

Axl, about the alternative lyrics: I don't know that it's more up-beat or anything it's just where my head's are with that song now, you know, rather than make a nostalgia piece (...) And a lot of people who liked the original and it was their favourite song, license plates that says "Don't Cry" and whatever, heard the new one and kinda flip out like "How did you do that?", I don't know (laughter). But when I was in the studio I was like, "I don't know what's happening, Mike, but just let me go with it". And it worked out really nice [Interview with Axl Rose, 1991].

Axl: While I was recording the original version I started hearing another melody and words in my head. It really surprised me. I told Mike Clink, our producer, "Put me on another track! I don't know what's happening here but I've got a different song coming through my head and I want to get that on tape" [Shadow boxing with Axl Rose, June 1992].

http://gnr-afd.forumotion.com/t105-don-t-cry

#1124 Re: Guns N' Roses » Bumblefoot's Favorite UYI Song » 788 weeks ago

As I remeber, Axl felt the original version was too old and not fresh enough, so he wrote new lyrics. He said he always preferred the new version over the old, question is why they released the old as a single.

#1125 Re: Guns N' Roses » GN'R Nominated for Hall of Fame » 788 weeks ago

Bono wrote:

Dave Navarro too than I guess. Why not Shannon Hoon too while we're at it and Alice Cooper

tejastech08 wrote:

Good idea. They can induct the orgy chick from Rocket Queen. She gave a hell of a performance. 14

Don't forget all the chicks bitching at Axl in Coma 16

Everyone should be inducted who ever wore a GN'R T-shirt. They did more for the legacy than some people mentioned in the last pages.

#1126 Re: Guns N' Roses » Bumblefoot's Favorite UYI Song » 788 weeks ago

misterID wrote:

I like Don't Cry much more with just Ron playing behind Axl. Very cool stuff.

I really like Ron's version. I think this is one of the few times when the post-1993 band changed a song and it got a brand new identity.

#1127 Re: Guns N' Roses » GN'R Nominated for Hall of Fame » 788 weeks ago

Axlin08 wrote:

Axl Rose
Slash
Izzy Stradlin
Gilby Clarke
Duff McKagan
Steven Adler
Matt Sorum
Dizzy Reed


everyone else fuck off. Simple as that.

I agree. But the Matt-Dizzy-Gilby trio should be left upstage. tongue

#1128 Guns N' Roses » Bumblefoot's Favorite UYI Song » 788 weeks ago

Mikkamakka
Replies: 31

Guns N' Roses Guitarist Ron "Bumblefoot" Thal Talks About His Favorite 'Use Your Illusion' Song

http://www.guitarworld.com/guns-n-roses … usion-song

In honor of the 20th anniversary of Use Your Illusion I & II, I recently broke down all 30 songs from the albums, ranked in order from worst to best.

During the process of trying to get in touch with GNR's people for an unrelated project, I also caught up with current Guns guitarist Ron "Bumblefoot" Thal, and I asked him about his favorite song from UYI to play live. Here's what he had to say:

"It was May 2006, my first tour with GNR. Fans would email daily asking if we could please play 'Don't Cry.' I remember standing alone on stage in front of 100,000+ people, taking a solo, and I just started playing it on my own, motioning the audience to sing along. For the next year that became part of my solo, a lone guitar rendition, the audience singing along, a moment where we'd really connect each night. One of the last shows after a year of touring, I played it as an encore and Axl joined in and sang it, for the first time in over a decade. [We] started adding it back into the set after that. Always loved the song, but after all that it has an added personal meaning to me now."

#1129 Re: Guns N' Roses » 2011-12 Guns n Roses Tour » 788 weeks ago

jamester wrote:

Californian rockers BUCKCHERRY will be direct support for GUNS N' ROSES on the following dates:

Axl seems to wanna be friends with anyone Slash had a fall-out. Sebastian Bach, auditioning Ryan Roxie (more than a decade later than Slash adviced him as a Gilby-successor), Duff in the inactive times of VR, and now the Buckcherry guys. I wonder when Axl will invite Scott for a diner, or begin to date Renee Suran.

#1130 Re: Guns N' Roses » GN'R Nominated for Hall of Fame » 788 weeks ago

Naltav wrote:

Since some of are giving your opinions on who should be inducted, my question is; do the persons in the band get inducted?

Did a quick browse on their site and it seems that whenever a band is inducted, it's the band-name that gets inducted. Doesen't seem like RRHOF gives two shits if you're an important member of that band or not.

If every GN'R-member gets inducted, then they'll need a stadium to have enough place for the guys.

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