If it were 93 and we had message boards, would you all be saying this about Izzy as well?

"Well, yeah, he left because it became a circus and now here he is, playing with them... izzy man, spineless!"

Guns business' side: Instead of hiring a bass player who has to learn 20+ songs, they HIRED (there, I said it) one that knows most of them, has to learn 3 or 4 new ones (yes, he will play CD songs) and also has a history with the group.

Duff side: travel south america with family, enjoy some high profile/full of people gigs, be praised, cash in some good bucks, then, when he had enough of dealing with Axl's bullshit backstage, goes back to his normal life.

Axl side: Duff was the last to give up and judging by Duff's book and Axl's interviews, they were always on good terms but on a grey zone of discomfort in the sense of "who'll call first?". Good things they patched some scars in London.

People comparing this with Slash or "why not with Slash?": comparing apples to oranges. They haven't come to amicable terms yet and maybe never will. You get angry because it becomes more evident that a full fledged reunion will not occur (any time soon). Also, Axl has been really vocal about his problems with Slash and there are rumors that he demands a public apology and until that happens... well...

Slash: If he did have problems with Duff joining for a few songs, he did not make it public. Also, if he did, the RNRHOF occurred AFTER that and they are buddies again., on good terms, so I don't think Duff sees this as a problem and, if my instincts are to be right (given what I read about his life and modus operandis in the GNR days) he probably spoke to Slash prior to accepting the offer.

apex-twin wrote:

I argue it takes two to tango. If you read his autobiography, Slash admits he was a chronic alcoholic during his last years in Guns. If you want to read an apocryphal account of how he felt immediately after leaving Guns, try this one. The Devil is in the details, and this one gets them down curiously well.

Slash explained, "Oh, well, it just seemed like it as about him. Shit I wrote a whole fucking album about Axl Rose, and he never even knew it."

Thanks, never read that before.

I guess that's an example of the side of Slash Axl is always talking about, the side you never see in interviews or his autobiography. That's pretty messed up, suggesting to some half strangers your former band mates beats kids. And to think they would ever write a song about Axl Rose like that at all, like wtf do they know about it. Then that whole antagonizing part of "are you a fan of Axl?". Axl may have some women issues, but Slash definitely seems to have some Axl issues himself. That whole story about him going up to Axl's house to declare "he won the war" suddenly starts to look a lot more plausible.

The difference between the two is that Axl was always upfront about how he felt about him in interviews, Slash always plays it a lot more coy. And that's why they don't get along. Slash is kind of a phony.