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#1241 Re: Guns N' Roses » DJ ASHBA Recalls 'Funny' Bar Fight Involving AXL ROSE - » 804 weeks ago
I'm a bit tired of the post-Marilyn Manson rock songs, even when it's combined with a Crue-sauced chorus and nu-metalish garnish. I only know Lies Of the Beautiful People off the album, and neither impressed nor disappointed. This song was written to be a modern rock hit. It is. But it doesn't mena quality. I'll check the album to get a better picture.
Grinderman 2 is sick though, I love the instrumentalization, they're surely one of the most innovative, creative and progressive rock bands around. However I think Nick is underachieving on the second album, the first was much better (just like the last Bad Seeds).
#1242 Re: Guns N' Roses » Alternate artwork (NEW scans inside!) » 804 weeks ago
Richard Fortus is in his mid 40s, not like those you mentioned. They played as session musicians when they were young, unknown and din't have the chance. But they were creating all the time and it surfaced some years later. Hell, Jimi was only 27 when he died. Page was like 25 when he started Led Zeppelin.
Robin's rich enough not to have anything to worry about money wise and he's old enough to finally to do something besides playing other people's songs. He has a lot of time, cause doesn't need to do too much to get paid, as Guns N' Roses is mostly inactive. Yet (as Robin or Dizzy, but the later may release some solo stuff sometime in the future) he doesn't try to create anything. He's playing in cover bands or joining other bands as a session guitarist performing other people's songs.
I see zero motivation there. Music is about creation, but he's satisfied with playing Stray Cat Blues, Boys Are Back In Town and Nightran over and over again. He's a talented performer and touches the guitar quite well, I like his interpretations. But hey, when a 13-year old kid begins to play guitar he'll be trying to write someting in a month! Anyone who plays guitar or any instrument can tell that ideas popping up all the time they're playing, even when they are playing other people's songs! How can someone with Richard's talent and skills not to want to be remembered by his own right? How can he have no drive to write a fuckin' solo album like Tommy and release it at least via Internet? It's not the 60s when you needed a record deal to have an album, it's 2011. Nobodies upload tons of stuff @ youtube, just for the sake of it. Richard sin't in BH's league, but he'd be able to coem up with a tasty rock album, I'm sure he has the qualities.
Some of the current players' lack of motivation to do something creative in the silent periods of GN'R is just shocking.
#1243 Re: Guns N' Roses » Rumored South American dates around RIR » 804 weeks ago
A brief SA tour would make sense. They'll be rehearsed, the stuff will be there and ready, why not milk (and make happy) the SA fanatics? It'd be a good opportunity to keep the band a bit alive and functinoning for a few weeks. I'd rather support this than playing for millionaires at fashion shows.
#1244 Re: Guns N' Roses » Alternate artwork (NEW scans inside!) » 804 weeks ago
You don't need to be a mind-reader to understand that Richard can write and release songs and albums whenever he wants to. It's 2011, not 1911. The fact that he hasn't started a solo effort proves that he has zero motivation to create something.
Sorry for the harsh comments, but sometimes I feel like I'd be @ HTGTH, with the same stupid arguments and zealot quotes popping up without an ounce of thought. By the same guys, just check Ali's post there, I remember him quite well. It's just the same brainless Axlite jarmoish mantra over and over again. I use the ignore function to avoid further personal fights with that guy. It's up to Buzzsaw now. 
#1245 Re: Guns N' Roses » The Tommy Stinson Thread » 804 weeks ago
Yeah, that Matt story is in the vein of Ashba's tales. There were very hard feelings between Paul vs Slash N' Duff N' Matt though. Matt wanted to keep his job so desperateley that he made some shitty comments about Snakepit I, yes - can you imagine what should have happened to confront Axl and quite/get fired? I think the Axl/Yoko ego trip came to a point, when even Matt Sorum had enough. And it says it all.
#1246 Re: Guns N' Roses » Alternate artwork (NEW scans inside!) » 804 weeks ago
Mikkamakka wrote:Ali wrote:The "lazy" Richard? Uh, o.k. If you say so.
Ali
I consider a 40-year old _talented_ guitar player lazy, if he has zero writing credit and doesn't show an ounce of interest to create something. He's quite comfortable with playing other people's songs, be it Guns N' Roses, Thin Lizzy or whatever.
Perhaps you should educate yourself a little more on someone's history before making statements like you did. You just made yourself look clueless and foolish. There's a band Richard was in before GN'R, with Frank Ferrer actually, called Love Spit Love. Richard co-wrote several songs on both their albums.
Ali
You are so extremely arrogant and stupid at the same time that I'd put you on my ignore list. But I've always fought against your kind, Axlite. I know Richard's pedigre quite well, thanks. Some songs he wrote in the 90s cannot justify his past 15 years of nothing.
Don't you miss HTGTH? That's your place, go back to the fellow brainwashed zealots. 
#1247 Re: Guns N' Roses » Alternate artwork (NEW scans inside!) » 804 weeks ago
Mikkamakka wrote:Don't you wonder what motivates a creative person like Tommy to continue with Guns? They very likely haven't written any new material since 2003. It's been 8 years. You'd want more than rerecord stuff alone, wait for others to rerecord stuff or tour almost the same setlist in every 4 years. I know he's doing SA, he's doing his solo thing, but there's nothing to exceed his creativity in GN'R. He's not Pitman who seems to be the closest person to Axl in the tinkering game. Dizzy has never had any ambition, same goes for Frank. Even the lazy Richard had enough and got side projects to tour (or to get some more money). I really don't understand why these guys like Tommy and Ron stick with Axl, except the fat cheque.
The "lazy" Richard? Uh, o.k. If you say so.
Ali
I consider a 40-year old _talented_ guitar player lazy, if he has zero writing credit and doesn't show an ounce of interest to create something. He's quite comfortable with playing other people's songs, be it Guns N' Roses, Thin Lizzy or whatever.
#1248 Re: Guns N' Roses » Alternate artwork (NEW scans inside!) » 804 weeks ago
Don't you wonder what motivates a creative person like Tommy to continue with Guns? They very likely haven't written any new material since 2003. It's been 8 years. You'd want more than rerecord stuff alone, wait for others to rerecord stuff or tour almost the same setlist in every 4 years. I know he's doing SA, he's doing his solo thing, but there's nothing to exceed his creativity in GN'R. He's not Pitman who seems to be the closest person to Axl in the tinkering game. Dizzy has never had any ambition, same goes for Frank. Even the lazy Richard had enough and got side projects to tour (or to get some more money). I really don't understand why these guys like Tommy and Ron stick with Axl, except the fat cheque.
#1249 Re: Dust N' Bones & Cyborg Slunks » Weiland joined VR for money » 804 weeks ago
First of all, I'm sure that the Axl camp lied about at least one important detail - that Slash wasn't drunk. Not only Slash said that he was drunk as a man can be and Perla drove him there, but no sober man would arrive to Axl's house at 5:30 AM. That's sleeping time for rockstars, unless they are drunk as hell.
In October of 2005 Slash made an unannounced 5:30 AM visit to Axl Rose's house. Not appearing to be under the influence, Slash came to inform Axl that...
Second, the timing of the press release is VERY strange. Slash went to Axl in October, dropped the lawsuit against Axl next spring, then Axl came up with the infamous double-versioned press release - one for the press and one for the boards. It seems to be very Axlish - he felt he won, but didn't get the 'you are the stronger' confession from Slash in REALITY, so he chose his wishes. Not to mention that the reunion pressure could have been pretty big/grown on him with no album on the horizon and a dropped lawsuit (i.e. a better chance to make peace with the other guys). Then it's up to us to believe if it was Axl's 'fuck you' message to the reunionists (mostly label and promoter people) with a spin to hurt Slash's position in VR; or it was Beta's trick to tell Axl a different story to avoid further risks a reunion would cause for her and the inner circle.
"I actually did go to Axl's house at one point, but I never saw him. I never talked to him. I left a note with his person over there having to do with lawsuit that we were in. I don't know how it got turned into what it got turned into."
"W. Axl Rose, on Friday March 3, 2006 responded to one of Saul 'Slash' Hudson's baseless lawsuits by filing a counterclaim asking the Federal Court to confirm his ownership of his own creative works. Slash and Michael 'Duff' McKagan had previously filed cases both in Federal Court and in the Los Angeles Superior Court making numerous false allegations about Axl. Mr. Rose believes that once apprised of the true facts the Judge or Jury deciding these lawsuits will rule in Axl's favor on every issue before them.
"More surprising to Axl are recent media reports that Slash (Saul Hudson) is claiming that he has always been supportive of Axl Rose and the new GUNS N' ROSES. Slash's actions in recent years have in fact been anything but supportive. Besides the lawsuits filed against Axl Rose, claiming, among other things, that Axl does not own the copyright in the songs that Axl co-authored with his former GUNS N' ROSES band mates, Slash has continually made negative and malicious statements about Axl in order to garner publicity for himself.
"As an example, the Federal lawsuit Hudson and McKagan filed was based on a faulty premise from the start. What Hudson and McKagan attempted to portray as egregious misconduct by Axl was in fact — as Slash and Duff have learned — nothing more than a clerical error committed by ASCAP. Had Slash and Duff or their representatives bothered to pick up the phone the clerical error could have been easily sorted out without the need for filing an utterly baseless lawsuit which one can only assume had been filed for the purposes of self-publicity at Axl's expense. The lawsuit also attacks Axl's integrity as Slash and Duff, in a vindictive attempt to aggrandize their own stature, re-write history through false statements, which have been repeated by the media. Their attacks on Axl stand in sharp contrast to Rose's conduct. Axl has at all times worked diligently to maintain the artistic integrity of the band by choosing with great care which properties to license GUNS N' ROSES songs to and refusing to participate in what he believed were potentially embarrassing projects. He has fought to avoid the release of material that does not live up to the highest of standards demanded by the band's history and it's followers. Axl chose not to respond through the media while taking the high road in the face of Slash and Duff's attacks. Hudson and McKagan, by contrast, have told ever changing — and false — stories regarding the formation of the band and it's history and believe that the band's catalogue should be exploited without careful consideration — for the GUNS N' ROSES brand and their loyal audience — or Axl's input as if it were fast food by anyone willing to pay for it.
"For over 10 years Slash, a consummate press, photo and media opportunist and manipulator, has attacked Axl Rose on a number of levels. Slash's actions whether in or out of GUN'S N' ROSES have been a complete betrayal across the board of his alleged friendship and business relationship with Axl and the so called brotherhood and band loyalties that are supposed to have existed. Instead Slash has publicly attempted, by soliciting public and media support, to take credit for something that was not his or anyone else's to take, notwithstanding that Slash played a major part in the success of the band as Axl has continually acknowledged.
"In October of 2005 Slash made an unannounced 5:30 AM visit to Axl Rose's house. Not appearing to be under the influence, Slash came to inform Axl that: 'Duff was spineless,' 'Scott [Weiland] was a fraud,' that he 'hates Matt Sorum' and that in this ongoing war, contest or whatever anyone wants to call it that Slash has waged against Axl for the better part of 20 years, that Axl has proven himself 'the stronger.' Based on his conduct in showing up at Rose's home, Axl was hopeful that Slash would live up to his pronouncements that he wanted to end the war and move on with life. Unfortunately that did not prove to be the case.
"Mr. Rose's attorney Howard Weitzman commented, 'Axl regrets having to spend time and energy on these distractions but he has a responsibility to protect the GUNS N' ROSES legacy and expose the truth. Axl believes he has been left with no alternative but to respond to these lawsuits. It would have been Axl's preference to resolve disputes with Slash and Duff in private. The courthouse is not his choice of forum. However, Axl could no longer sit quietly and allow the continuing dissemination of falsehoods and half-truths by his former band-mates.'"
#1250 Re: Guns N' Roses » The Tommy Stinson Thread » 805 weeks ago
This has to be one of his best quotes regarding the CD saga....
"There were guys who'd never ever made a record putting out their ideas. At first, those of us who'd actually made records thought their ideas sucked, but there were also some good ones."
Yeah, this was the Tommy quote I was referring to in another thread. No wonder that Slash, Duff and Matt didn't like the idea of Paul Huge writing for the band.

