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#1271 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 356 weeks ago
Not 'getting my hopes up', just saying Trump might be diverting attention from something. One thing which may come up, is 'Was he trying to investigate a case for obstruction, or did he not even bother since current admin policy believes they cannot indict a sitting President anyway. So it'd be a waste of effort'
(Hint: It's the latter)
#1272 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 356 weeks ago
Anyway my point isn't to debate this topic as much as it is Pelosi would be well served to have a left hook like this ready to drop. Trumps just following the Steve Bannon theory of set off a powder keg to divert attention from something else. After Acosta resigned, his immigrant roundup was a flop, so he pulled this. It's been intentional. Also wasn't Mueller supposed to testify today? I take it that got pushed back a week.
#1273 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 356 weeks ago
The words racist and racism have no meaning anymore. People literally have no idea what they actually mean it's been so diluted.
3 of them were born in the US. I don't even know if AOC's parents were born in Puerto Rico, they very well may be from NYC as well. Heck, Trumps parents I believe were born in another country. Did Hillary yell "If you don't like it go back to where you came from!" in 2016 when he said the US was a mess?
And 1989 Axl Rose said 'Go back to your country' however 2018 Axl didn't even release that song on his $500 box set.
#1274 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 356 weeks ago
Pelosi needs an 'impeachment' remark ready to drop for a future Trump fail.
This racial tweet is idiotic. Had she punched back at 7am Monday morning saying "These comments were racist. Our country should not tolerate such a racist belief from the President of the USA, we are putting forth articles of impeachment immediately" Republicans wouldn't know what hit 'em. And they'd have a heckuva time defending him on this one.
It's not something to delay, or discuss, she needs a knockout left hook ready to go & blindside them. (She's handled this all well, but she does need a killer blow ready just in case. For another time, kinda too late on this one)
#1275 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 357 weeks ago
PaSnow wrote:I saw it said Mike Pence lasted only 90 seconds in a detention center? It seemed the second one he visited, I'm not sure if the press questioned that the first one looked too staged or what, but not sure why he visited & why they hadn't cleaned it up & emptied it out. Mostly, it seemed that it was caused by the detainees saying they hadn't showered in 10-20 days. Just a putrid smell in there, and he couldn't tolerate it. Had to be rank.
Leads into the theory that myb Pence won't be on the ticket in 2020, wonder if Trump is eyeing someone up. Previously ppl said Haley but I'd think she's hoping for a chance at 2024.
Making a bunch of assumptions based off of what may or may not have happened is reckless.
1. Yeah, cause the RNC is likely to slap a libel suit on a poster from a Guns N Roses message board.
2. I'm never wrong:
PaSnow wrote:Acosta's toast. Completely unemotional, no sympathy for the girls, claiming he did right and proud he did something as opposed to letting Epstein walk free. Blaming the process & other people, making it seem like he didnt have other options.
A few pretty long pauses after some questions asked.
He'll be gone Friday.
This>>>>>>>Damn, you were spot on<<<<<<<
#1276 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 357 weeks ago
I saw it said Mike Pence lasted only 90 seconds in a detention center? It seemed the second one he visited, I'm not sure if the press questioned that the first one looked too staged or what, but not sure why he visited & why they hadn't cleaned it up & emptied it out. Mostly, it seemed that it was caused by the detainees saying they hadn't showered in 10-20 days. Just a putrid smell in there, and he couldn't tolerate it. Had to be rank.
Leads into the theory that myb Pence won't be on the ticket in 2020, wonder if Trump is eyeing someone up. Previously ppl said Haley but I'd think she's hoping for a chance at 2024.
#1277 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 357 weeks ago
PaSnow wrote:Acosta's toast. Completely unemotional, no sympathy for the girls, claiming he did right and proud he did something as opposed to letting Epstein walk free. Blaming the process & other people, making it seem like he didnt have other options.
A few pretty long pauses after some questions asked.
He'll be gone Friday.
Damn, you were spot on
Yeah. saw this. Needed to be done, its just him stepping down, we're not talking about prosecuting him.
My guess is Hannity & Fox News tried to spin it or alieve him of blame, but you figure ghose guys get angry emails and phone calls behing the scenes, plus social media, and much support just wasnt there. Then word got back to Trump it was just becoming indefensible.
#1278 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 357 weeks ago
Nahh I don't think so. I think it likely was just that. Well, maybe he traveled with some of them, and did similar acts in other countries, but I'm not sure it was an entire 'ring' or club. I do find one thing curious. Obviously it's possible or several people might speculate somehow this traces back to Cohen (NYC, millionaires, SDNY). Now I'm not saying Trump here, but I read about Epstein that he seemed to give these girls $200-$400 dollars. Lets be real, not alot of money. Spending money for the mall it seems, although, I can understand how a 14-15 year old girl might take it.
Years later however, they'd likely come up with alot of regret, and alot of guilt over it. I wonder if Cohen was somehow involved in 'hush money' payments to them years later, of far more substantial amounts. $50K-$100K etc. Could also explain how Cohen could pull off attempting to be such a tough guy, threatening to break legs, kill family etc. A 22 year old might get scared and accept the payoff amount and keep quiet.
Again, not indicating Trump here, just that Cohen was tied to the rich. Anyones guess really. I also wonder if cocaine trafficking gets involved in this (not to the girls, just the FL/NYC millionaires connection). If it gets that huge this countries isn't ready for whats coming imho. That would be a fiasco.
#1279 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 357 weeks ago
I'm generally not a conspiracy theory person,
Me neither really. @RandallFlagg 
#1280 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 357 weeks ago
Kinda wonder if theres like a secret society out there. Maybe the government doesnt take them down because they control the wealth in the world
