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#121 Re: Guns N' Roses » Radio Reacts To Guns N' Roses Single » 881 weeks ago

Bono wrote:
war wrote:

actually the bad reviews are, without a doubt, coming from older people that haven't gotten over the breakup of the old band and that wait for the album.

i have been polling people at the college i work at.

thes students like the song the most, almost 100 percent of them and the ones that didn't care were not into rock at all.

most of the older people liked it as well but not as predominately.

Are you fucking kiding? yeah only old people who are resentful of the old band's break up would review this poorly roll I mean the majority of earths population was devestated when Gn'R broke up. Too many of them unable to move on. Please. the only people who haven't gotten over the old band's break up are people who frequent Gn'R messge boards. most people dont' give a shit. Nice unbiased polling 16

By all means Bigbri enjoy it. I just think that people on Gn'R sites  better be prepared to hear alot of HONEST negative feedback.  The fact is most people don't care one way or the other but if given the choice over something they'd like or something they wouldn't like they'll take the thing they like.  I just find it pretty offensive and lacking in common sense really to say that the only way anyone could dislike these songs is because the've already made up their minds and aren't willing to give the songs a chance.  I know that didn't come from you, I'm just saying it in general.

Like I said I enjoy hearing it on radio but I think it's pretty clear the response to the song is pretty underwhelming. We'll know for sure in the coming weeks. more so in the coming months. We'll see if the songs have any staying power or if they simply fade away as quickly as a new Velvet Revolver single.

who are you trying to convince, us or yourself? and i am not lying, i have not read ONE constructive, thought out negative response, no "oh yous ee what i don't like is the vocal layering and the mix" no its "GNR IS SHIT WITOUT SLASH" or "axl rose solo project, its not gnr!". so get down of your highhorse of misplaced negativity, does being different make you feel superiour or some shit?

not only are you exaggerating the negativity, you almost sound like you don't want it to be successful, probably true too.

here is some professional reviews, both ahve negative and positive elements in them, but these are the objective ones, maybe this will shut you up.

"It's a pretty terrific blueprint for a hard-rock song in search of a chorus that never actually arrives.

The first minute of the 4:40 running time consists of get-the-juices-flowing sound effects; finally, a minute and a half in, we get an abridged version of that patented Axl scream, and then what feels like the buildup to a great refrain,but turns out to really be the refrain, which is moderately memorable at best."
http://popwatch.ew.com/popwatch/2008/10 … r-aga.html 

"The track is a riff-heavy rocker that begins with eerie, soaring guitars and Rose's trademark squeal before launching into an infectious chorus. At first, Rose's voice sounds markedly deeper (think "Mr. Brownstone") than it does on some of GNR's most famous songs, but returns to its high-pitched greatness sporadically throughout the tune. The song ends with a quick explosion, which slowly trails off into silence."
MTV.com chris harris.

"It don't really matter," he sings. "You'll find out for yourself." As the cryptic verses unfold, it becomes clear that this is one of Rose's songs from inside the cage of fame, attacking external forces he despises but can't ignore or repel. Like "Get in the Ring" or "You Could Be Mine," this is Rose as the nastiest kind of punk.

"It would take a lot more..." is the key phrase, the one that Rose sings in still-powerful mid-range. More hate, more time. (There's a weird reference to masturbation too, that will have critics and possibly 12-year-olds snickering for a while.) These are the points when the song sounds the most like Nine Inch Nails -- a shot of aggression that somehow contains its own alienated retreat.


"Chinese Democracy" also recalls "I'm Afraid of Americans," David Bowie's 1997 foray with NIN. Both songs have a suffocated quality, as if their makers are pushing through smoke to express these thoughts. It's the sound of florid, romantic rockers aiming for something cold and modern.

But Rose can never really be cold. He's a Heat Miser -- whatever he touches starts to melt in his clutch. That's why these paranoid rockers never quite satisfy the way his grandiose ballads can. As real as Rose's anger may be, in song it starts to feel overly put on, in need of a sweeping chorus (or Slash-like ringing solo) to relieve the tension of the pose.

Still, for all the pooh-poohing this song will inevitably earn because it's just been too long in coming to fulfill all hopes, "Chinese Democracy" brings back a passionate weirdness that the hard rock airwaves have lacked. However overwrought or undercooked the whole album may be, it's good to have this mad king venturing forth over his moat."
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/music_b … r-has.html

"Chinese Democracy," which hit radio today, is a pretty rad track. Once Axl Rose's patented banshee scream kicks in over a thunderous guitar riff, all the hype and bullshit go out the window.

The song features dueling Axl vocals (the high-pitched one and the low growling one from "It's So Easy"), and the redheaded one goes on angrily about something vaguely political in the verses ("Blame it on the Falun Gong/They've see the end and you can't hold on now"). The song's soaring guitars seem to build towards a killer chorus that never quite happens. Instead, there's a ripping guitar solo (some combo of Robin Finck, Buckethead and Ron Thal) that almost makes up for having nothing to sing along to.

The outro is classic GN'R, but on steroids '” guitars blazing, multiple Axls screaming '” and there's just a bit too much going on. This song ain't no "Paradise City" or "Welcome To The Jungle," but it stands tall against any other GN'R rocker, and that's not something rock radio can say very often these days.
http://www.chartattack.com/reviews/6185 … e-reviewed

oh shiz, is this some articulate yet realistic reviews? oh no i bet you're pissed now, people like the song! bono what ever will you do!!??!

find me one SOLELY negative review, one that really lays into the song, that is as well written as the positive ones. oh wait there aren't any, because the only people who are going to dismiss this are going to review by saying"14 years, 10 million dollars, wheres slash?"

#123 Re: Guns N' Roses » Radio Reacts To Guns N' Roses Single » 881 weeks ago

yea that'd be it, does it come on after TWAT?

#124 Re: Guns N' Roses » Radio Reacts To Guns N' Roses Single » 881 weeks ago

misterID, yea theres a promo, the best representation of the 'dont try to' is on promo 3 at the end. its either 3 or 4, its also on promo 10 but it doesn't sound as good.

also; i know, i right click it, the option is greyed out.

#125 Re: Guns N' Roses » Radio Reacts To Guns N' Roses Single » 881 weeks ago

am i the only one who  doesn't have the option to 'save as' on that quick time link?

#126 Re: Guns N' Roses » Radio Reacts To Guns N' Roses Single » 881 weeks ago

the single is amazing, i've always loved it and voted for it in your 'what should be the single' poll, its a sacrificial lamb those who had already made up their minds about the album can trash it all they want, they'll be speechless whats TWAT and whatever they 'dont you try to stop us now' song from promo 3 hits them.

#127 Re: Guns N' Roses » Radio Reacts To Guns N' Roses Single » 881 weeks ago

buzzsaw wrote:
Captain Winkler wrote:
buzzsaw wrote:

No, the problem is that you assume you know something about me when you don't.  You've pretty much had it in for me for awhile now and I'm not really sure why.  If you have a problem with me, take it to PM, otherwise respect the fact that I have an opinion and I have the right to share it.

Fuck all of you that think I want this album to fail.  It's actually quite the opposite, but what I see has failure written all over it.  You see that as being negative, I see it as being honest with myself, which more of you should look into.  Read what's going on around you, read the not so surreal thread...this isn't as great as you either think it is or want it to be.  People are underwhelmed, and these are fans that have been on the forums for years.

I'm staying out of the celebration thread and any other thread specifically for that purpose.  I'm responding to the threads that I'm interested in.  Nobody asked me to stay out of that thread - I even deleted a post in a thread that I thought brought a bad vibe to a good thread.  I'm sympathetic to your cause, but threads like radio's response are fair game for any comments (positive or negative).

i bet this will be seen as 'insulting people' again, but fuck it who cares, this forum is weird, people can slag on peoples happiness, insult people trying to promote the album(requesting the song be played is obviously a way to get people to listen to it duh) but as soon someone attacks someone for billy overly negative its "oh no you can't do that. he can sully ANY positive sentiments that people are trying to express but if you say one word about his negativity you are wicked wicked person".

i was avoiding reading anything here because of the overtly negative and depressing people(buzzaw and tejsomething) but i thought "hey, maybe such great news may have washed anyway the depressive grip that they were enveloped in" but no, i decide to the read this thread and i see you insulting bright eyes for being positive, just fuckin wow.

i have a question for you, are you a depressed person in real life? are you just generally unhappy and bleak? i bet you're a lot of fun to hang out with in real life, do your friends(i seriously doubt you have any) put up with you? i am being serious, what is wrong? are you unhappy?

that is all i wanted to say, but hey i bet i am the one who needs to' lighten up'. i assume i should be telling bright eyes what a despicable person he/she is right?

thanx monkeychow for posting that, do you know if triple j have been playing it monkey?

Hopefully management will deal with you stalking me and making unwarrented personal attacks...if not, you can expect a response later today.

oh my, poor buzzkill, so you can spout your condescending drivel in every thread but as soon as someone asks you a hard questions its "hey man, lay off". you are a weak individual my friend.

the internet, is very serious, i heard.

#128 Re: Guns N' Roses » Radio Reacts To Guns N' Roses Single » 881 weeks ago

buzzsaw wrote:
russtcb wrote:
buzzsaw wrote:

This isn't grass roots, this is spamming (in my opinion to please a select few).  Grass roots would be getting people interested, not faking people's interest.

I just can't imagine why you care about it at all.

No, the problem is that you assume you know something about me when you don't.  You've pretty much had it in for me for awhile now and I'm not really sure why.  If you have a problem with me, take it to PM, otherwise respect the fact that I have an opinion and I have the right to share it.

Fuck all of you that think I want this album to fail.  It's actually quite the opposite, but what I see has failure written all over it.  You see that as being negative, I see it as being honest with myself, which more of you should look into.  Read what's going on around you, read the not so surreal thread...this isn't as great as you either think it is or want it to be.  People are underwhelmed, and these are fans that have been on the forums for years.

I'm staying out of the celebration thread and any other thread specifically for that purpose.  I'm responding to the threads that I'm interested in.  Nobody asked me to stay out of that thread - I even deleted a post in a thread that I thought brought a bad vibe to a good thread.  I'm sympathetic to your cause, but threads like radio's response are fair game for any comments (positive or negative).

i bet this will be seen as 'insulting people' again, but fuck it who cares, this forum is weird, people can slag on peoples happiness, insult people trying to promote the album(requesting the song be played is obviously a way to get people to listen to it duh) but as soon someone attacks someone for billy overly negative its "oh no you can't do that. he can sully ANY positive sentiments that people are trying to express but if you say one word about his negativity you are wicked wicked person".

i was avoiding reading anything here because of the overtly negative and depressing people(buzzaw and tejsomething) but i thought "hey, maybe such great news may have washed anyway the depressive grip that they were enveloped in" but no, i decide to the read this thread and i see you insulting bright eyes for being positive, just fuckin wow.

i have a question for you, are you a depressed person in real life? are you just generally unhappy and bleak? i bet you're a lot of fun to hang out with in real life, do your friends(i seriously doubt you have any) put up with you? i am being serious, what is wrong? are you unhappy?

that is all i wanted to say, but hey i bet i am the one who needs to' lighten up'. i assume i should be telling bright eyes what a despicable person he/she is right?

thanx monkeychow for posting that, do you know if triple j have been playing it monkey?

#129 Re: Guns N' Roses » RS Rock List: Guns N' Roses » 881 weeks ago

Theres no other way a song like that could beat SCOM or some of the others....

that my friend is the problem, you say that no one could possibly ever like the leaks more than your beloved appetite in such a matter of fact, definitive, dismissive tone that you are not respecting other peoples opinions. you're basically saying anyone who holds the leaks in higher esteem is an idiot.

#130 Re: Guns N' Roses » RS Rock List: Guns N' Roses » 881 weeks ago

russtcb wrote:
jimmythegent wrote:

errr... Shacklers in the top 20?

Better is great and all but ahead of Sweet Child?

I don't get why SR made the Top 20, but I honestly agree with Better being way up there. It's probably my personal favorite GNR song.

oh no you cant like better more, what about the classics, no you're lying, what about SCOM? huh. nah mate you cant possibly think that so stop lying.

oh shit sorry was just channeling a few of the forum members here.

id replace shacklers with Chinese democracy and move TWAT up to number 10, and itd be a pretty good list.

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