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#1311 Re: Guns N' Roses » On this day in 1988... » 509 weeks ago
polluxlm wrote:Jungle from Live Era is the greatest thing ever.
Album version though I go with Rocket Queen (LE version is also great). Has everything you look for in a GN'R song. Heavy, badass, melodic and maybe a little psychedelic.
Always found Jungle on Live Era a bit flat and hollow myself. For me the consistently best versions of Jungle were in 06, it blew the roof off every night. Although I still think THE single best version of Jungle is 88 VMA's.
Maybe? Haven't noticed that myself, but then again that's the only version I've heard for the last 10 years, so hard to make comparisons off the top of my head.
What I dig about it is the Axl intro and the scrappy quality. Flows great, incredible power. My favorite intro to a song ever I think. And in the second or third verse you can hear Axl struggling with the lyrics, but not enough to take away from the song. Just leaves you with a raw, authentic feel, total badass. The video they made for the LE release is also really cool.
#1312 Re: The Garden » 2016 Presidential Election Thread » 509 weeks ago
I believe Trump knows what he's doing. The constant statements are all an act. A man of his intelligence would not keep doing it if he didn't have a plan. The allegations that he's throwing it for Hillary doesn't hold water imo. First off it's a conspiracy theory of such a level even I would be impressed, second it's not like Hillary and the establishment needs such elaborate scheming to make President. She's got the entire weight of the media and big business behind her, what else do you need?
I think he's doing it to stay in the spotlight and perhaps to tire people out? These statements doesn't really hurt him all that much, but it does get people used to seeing it happen. If he does want to pivot he can pretty much do it in any direction he likes, and if he doesn't he will have gotten more free air time than any candidate in history.
#1313 Re: The Garden » 2016 Presidential Election Thread » 509 weeks ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MffxBPlSZ64
#1314 Re: Guns N' Roses » On this day in 1988... » 509 weeks ago
Jungle from Live Era is the greatest thing ever.
Album version though I go with Rocket Queen (LE version is also great). Has everything you look for in a GN'R song. Heavy, badass, melodic and maybe a little psychedelic.
#1315 Re: The Garden » 2016 Presidential Election Thread » 509 weeks ago
Of course you don't see things that happen off camera, but you can clearly see in that clip that others see it too. She also clearly and immediately identifies what she's seen as protestors. If she had a seizure, she comes across as incredibly lucent in that clip.
If you are convinced things happen off camera, use your common sense. If Hillary had been subjected to any imminent threat it would have made news. It's a group of animal protestors. They shout slogans. That's all that is going on in that crowd.
I don't know what she's having, but she's acting weird. And it's compounded by that fella stepping in like he's her emergency psychiatrist.
Yeah, that was a strange episode, and it didn't need a doctored video (with added loops/rewinds) to make it look worse. If the people pushing this 'mentally ill' agenda were intellectually honest, they would post an unedited video. But again, there are so much more straightforward explanations for this than the 'mental illness' angle you've latched on to. If anything, she's just a socially awkward geek that doesn't know how to respond in certain situations. She flinches (probably due to the microphone popping up in her peripheral vision), knows it looks stupid and decides to make an awkward exaggerated joke out of it. Or, perhaps she is indeed epileptic, but epilepsy is not considered a mental illness, and is not considered a life threatening or debilitating condition. As a matter of fact, epilepsy is characterized by having no symptoms between episodes at all.
You're protesting way too hard. The Presidential nominee is not socially awkward, that's just grasping at straws. A life long public persona getting flustered by a few journalists? Nah, not buying it. Strange episode? We agree on something. I've never seen anyone act like that, enough for me to call it freaking weird behavior from a politician, from anyone. When I then hear stories of previous health issues and see pictures of medical handlers in her constant proximity I can't help putting two and two together. Whatever it is I want to know, not excuses.
I disagree, Trump does enough stupid and strange stuff to make videos like the two you showed seem trivial in comparison.
This shit angers me, because it takes away from actual policy issues that are worth discussing so much more than this bullshit. There's plenty of reasons to dislike her, you know I dislike her as well, but peddling these conspiracy theories is just... ugh...
They talk about his hair for god sake. You'd have to live in cave to not get a whiff of the Trump campaign in the media. Why are we even debating this point?
Policy issues was never part of this race. It was always establishment vs. Trump. Now it's down to who can be made the bigger fool. On the issues people are already decided. Either you want more of the same, or you're fed up enough to take a chance on the reality tv billionaire with the big mouth, promising great things. No bad policy is going to sway a Hillary voter over to Trump, because he has no policies. His appeal (and disgust) is about something else.
#1316 Re: The Garden » 2016 Presidential Election Thread » 509 weeks ago
I don't want to come of as rude, but seriously dude, that's some genuinely crazy shit you're spouting here. I mean, what the fuck? She's clearly reacting to something that happens in the audience. The simplest explanations are, as James and others have pointed out, protesters in the audience or someone gesturing at her. Yet somehow you find something in that video that supports your hypothesis that she's mentally ill? Talk about looking for confirmation of your biases. Me thinks you need to start spending a bit less time on 4chan and the likes.
It appears the bar for crazy has been lowered significantly since last time I checked.
She is clearly reacting to something yes, but I don't see any threats. I see a woman that looks almost hypnotized, I see what appears to be a medical professional coaching her back to reality.
But if you see nothing odd about her behavior here, there is nothing I can do for you. I assume you think "nothing's going on" here as well:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMHOcmDVBP0
I say again, if Trump did either of these you'd hear about nothing else.
#1317 Re: The Garden » 2016 Presidential Election Thread » 509 weeks ago
Where do you come up with this? All I see in both videos is the SS surrounding the candidates for some reason that can't be seen on camera. Trump reacts with fear while Hillary stands there composed the whole time. Hillary is also told she is okay and to keep talking.
Trump was attacked by an audience member. The SS stepped in to protect him. Several videos of this.
No such thing happened with Hillary. Nobody tried to attack her. She just looks like something triggered her. That guy close to her is not an SS agent going by his clothes and physique. Likely he's the handler when she loses it in public like this. He's been seen carrying what looks like a diazepam injector. The guys on stage are reacting to no threat, when "the doctor" has gotten Hillary back to composure they leave the stage promptly.
The woman looks ill.
#1318 Re: The Sunset Strip » 50 Years Ago » 510 weeks ago
When it all began for the Beatles you ask me. Just incredible how a corporate pop band managed to end up breaking all the rules and basically usher in the modern rock era.
In my teens I used to read this fictional self biography by an author who grew up during the Beatles craze. Almost felt like you were living it reading that book. Must have been an amazing time to be young.
#1319 Re: The Garden » 2016 Presidential Election Thread » 510 weeks ago
Those are two completely different situations. On the Trump video the SS comes up to protect him from an assailant, with Hillary they step in because she's about to have a fit for some reason and they have to coach her back.
#1320 Re: The Garden » 2016 Presidential Election Thread » 510 weeks ago
Just imagine if this was Trump.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXdkiaZvTVQ
