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#1321 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 339 weeks ago

bigbri wrote:
Randall Flagg wrote:
bigbri wrote:

Pence gives him the evangelical vote, though. You risk losing that by tossing him into the proverbial trash heap, no?


What other choice do they have?  Support the far left loons who are supporting infanticide in all but name, because god forbid they say a 3rd trimester abortion is too far.

Oh, I dunno. Not voting. Voting third party. Write-in.

We saw how well that worked in 2016.  I think evangelicals are just as looney as the idiots who cry about climate change, meanwhile they have multiple children and enjoy 1st world luxury.  But abortion is their issue.  Biden was just denied communion for his support of abortion, and Sanders and Warren celebrated the infanticide laws passed in VA, NY and IL.  I don't know what third party candidate is going to make abortion and Jesus their issue.

(For the record, I'm totally down with infanticide and euthanasia for those who any decent person would agree is appropriate)

#1322 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 339 weeks ago

bigbri wrote:
misterID wrote:

Okay, usually I take these things with a grain of salt, but a few trustworthy news sources are saying Trump is planning a huge comeback tv show with Mark Burnett, meaning he isn't looking to stay in office even if he's re-elected. A lot of talk is that he's going to drop Pence for Nikki Haley. Her sudden media push defending Trump really has me thinking there's a major swerve coming. Haley could be a game changer, imo.

Pence gives him the evangelical vote, though. You risk losing that by tossing him into the proverbial trash heap, no?


What other choice do they have?  Support the far left loons who are supporting infanticide in all but name, because god forbid they say a 3rd trimester abortion is too far.

#1323 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 340 weeks ago

bigbri wrote:
Randall Flagg wrote:
bigbri wrote:

Eric Holder rumors. Isn’t he Flagg’s guy?


Wasn't my guy, I just felt (feel) he was the strongest candidate to run for the Dem ticket, as none of these candidates excite the black vote.  I still don't think he'll run.  I have no idea what Bloomberg entering will do to the race.  If he runs to the right of Biden, I don't know how he wins the primary.

Yeah, I wasn't remembering clearly.

It's hard to say how either one can catch on at this stage, but I guess we'll see. Bloomberg is a real head-scratcher to me. He considered running months ago and should have done it then if he wanted.


I've been reading a lot of articles on the topic today, but I agree it's too late.  He wants to run cause he's worried Biden will fall and Sanders or Warren get the nomination, handing the election to Trump.  But at best he'd split the vote with Biden, making him the spoiler that assures Warren wins and Trump gets 4 more years.  It just baffles me how many people in the spotlight refuse to acknowledge big city politics don't win national elections.  What works in NYC or SF won't work in the rust belt or even PA and MI/WI.

#1324 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 340 weeks ago

bigbri wrote:

Eric Holder rumors. Isn’t he Flagg’s guy?


Wasn't my guy, I just felt (feel) he was the strongest candidate to run for the Dem ticket, as none of these candidates excite the black vote.  I still don't think he'll run.  I have no idea what Bloomberg entering will do to the race.  If he runs to the right of Biden, I don't know how he wins the primary.

#1325 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 340 weeks ago

https://news.yahoo.com/only-biden-tops- … 03041.html


It's like I've been saying for almost a year, run Biden if you want to win the Presidency.  Run Warren, and you get 4 more years of Trump.  Or is the NYT as biased as Rasmussen?

#1327 The Sunset Strip » Terminator : Dark Fate » 341 weeks ago

Randall Flagg
Replies: 9

Man, I was disappointed in this movie. The story and logic just didn’t make sense or resonate with me. Anyone else see it and enjoy it?

#1328 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 341 weeks ago

PaSnow wrote:

Trumps final defense is gonna end up the whistleblower is a #NeverTrumper. I'm surprised many of you think the GOP senate would never vote to remove him. If the evidence is clear, documented, witnessed, and damning, surely it'll be better for the GOP to ultimately accept his fate and remove him than blindly back him for a final 12 months as the public is stunned as to what's revealed. The Republican party would struggle for nearly a decade if they did that. For what, 12 months??


Your Hardon for Trump isn’t representative of the country at large. You swore Trump colluded with Russia and would be removed by the end of 2017, 2018, and now 2019.

What actually happened?  Why was it ok when Biden did it?

If you’re ok with every alleged wrong doing by a Democrat, but immediately accept every allegation against Trump, you have to at least consider you’re not being objective.

#1329 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 341 weeks ago

PaSnow wrote:
bigbri wrote:

No

i mean, how else does this end?

No way Trumps removed but Pence is in the clear. Zero shot

You think for a second, the GOP would not only convict Trump, but Pence too, to hand Pelosi the presidency?  To say nothing of that your scenario is impossible, as Pence would appoint a new VP once he assumed the Presidency.

JHC. Let me know what dispensary you’re getting your weed from. I may make the 5 hour drive to Philly.

#1330 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 341 weeks ago

PaSnow wrote:

Shutout52 the difference with Clinton is alot of people felt it was a personal issue, and unrelated to his governing. Therefore felt the whole thing never should've gotten the government involved.

Im sure it happened to other pols before, cheating on ones wife, but he was sorta the guinea pig of it on a national level. Even CEO's & business leaders. Its still up in the air, should they resign or is it a private matter? Just sayin'

This isnt that tho.


It wasn't a "private" matter.  Clinton lied under oath and attempted to gaslight Lewinsky as a liar and nut publicly, on every media outlet he could.  His wife coined the term "vast right wing conspiracy".  And to many of us, this is no different.  3 years of "RUSSIA!!!!!!" all to be bullshit.  No quid pro quo happened.  Foreign relations are exclusively the power of the executive (read the constitution), and you haven't asked Biden to step down for doing the thing you accuse Trump of.  When you acknowledge the farce that was the Mueller investigation and your political heroes who condoned it, maybe we can talk.  But until then, it's partisan bullshit, no different than Clinton.  Except Clinton(s) objectively and admitted to committing a crime.

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