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#1381 Re: The Garden » 2016 Presidential Election Thread » 511 weeks ago

monkeychow wrote:

In short Hillary is crook playing for her mates on wall st, and Tump is a fool who would be nowhere without his inherited wealth.

How about you guys start over and give us some new options please  16

There are other options, but they get zero publicity from the media.

#1382 Re: The Garden » 2016 Presidential Election Thread » 511 weeks ago

bigbri wrote:

I'm gonna research Gary Johnson in the next couple weeks.

If the media never mentions him as they don't now, he has no chance.  I promise you there are a ton of voters that have never even heard his name.

#1383 Re: The Garden » 2016 Presidential Election Thread » 511 weeks ago

Someday heads will come out of the sand...I hope.

#1384 Re: The Garden » 2016 Presidential Election Thread » 511 weeks ago

PaSnow wrote:
buzzsaw wrote:

I can't believe people are still defending Hillary...  all she has going for her at this point is she's not trump.

That, plus her degree in law, years working as an advocate for childrens causes in Arkansas & later in the white house, pushed for US healthcare reform, time as US Senator, later Secretary of State.

So yeah, aside from those 30 years, all she is is 'not Trump'.  But then again, she didn't just make money in NYC real estate & open a coupla casinos, so there's that.

I admit she has her faults & scandals, but it's a stretch to say she's just 'not Trump' as her qualification for a high political office. Trump on the other hand, has little to no qualifications, so it really isn't a reciprical argument.

No, not a stretch at all. All those legal degrees and experiencesdidn't stop her from violating the law.  Her biggest sec of state accomplishment is benghazi.  She lies, she exaggerates her accomplishments, and she is in the back pocket of bad, powerful people.  None of that is good. She's as morally corrupt as they come.

#1385 Re: The Garden » 2016 Presidential Election Thread » 511 weeks ago

I can't believe people are still defending Hillary...  all she has going for her at this point is she's not trump. Literally that's it. She can't be trusted with national security any more than trump can for very different reasons. That doesn't make her less dangerous.

#1386 Re: The Garden » 2016 Presidential Election Thread » 511 weeks ago

If Gary Johnson can pick up the Bernie supporters after the leaks, he can make an impact.  Don't know that he can win, but all you giving this to Hillary are going to shit yourselves if she can't win the Bernie supporters back somehow.

#1387 Re: The Garden » 2016 Presidential Election Thread » 511 weeks ago

I think you're underestimating how many people despise everything about Clinton.

#1388 Re: The Garden » 2016 Presidential Election Thread » 512 weeks ago

Neither party will ever let anyone strong get to the national stage, only puppets.  The problem they ran into this time is that they didn't anticipate the upswell in people on the Republican side (and to a lesser extent the Democrats) who are sick of the establishment.  Trump is an egotistical idiot and Clinton is a self-centered pathological liar.  In a perfect world, neither would even be running, but this is what we have.  The only thing that could be worse is if Trump rigged this whole thing to make sure Clinton got elected...unless that finally leads to the destruction of the two party system. 

I'm moving closer and closer to supporting and ultimately voting for Gary Johnson.  He actually seems to be gaining some steam and it may not be a wasted vote as it would have been a few months ago.  They need to get him into the debates (and he's very close).  I think he'll rip them both to shreds.

#1389 Re: Guns N' Roses » Guns N' Roses MTV Moonman Award for Sweet Child O' Mine For Sale » 512 weeks ago

I don't know that I could ever get rid of it if I had it, but I would never pay that much (in US dollars at least) to get it.  It's cool and all, but like you I could do so many other things with that kind of cash.  Good luck!  I hope you find a taker.

#1390 Re: Guns N' Roses » Official band pic » 512 weeks ago

I can't even decide if Melissa is hot or not.  Part of the reason for that is I haven't really done any research on it because it doesn't really matter in the big scheme of things. 

I'm in the camp that doesn't even think Dizzy is necessary, though I can live with him.  Having said that, I'll take her over Pitman.  She seems genuine.  I saw her dancing like she does even in the soundcheck, so it's not like she is pulling a DJ or something...that just seems to be who she is and how she feels the music.  I can respect that.  Her vocals are good.  At least she serves a purpose.  So she plays keys that you can't hear anyway on songs with no keys.  Who cares?

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