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#131 Re: Guns N' Roses » SOG single coming? » 209 weeks ago
Between here and Mygnr, I've seen people say the clips remind them of: Atlas Shrugged, Oklahoma, The General, Soul Monster, Circus Maximus, & D Tune. I may have missed some. I think we're collectively losing it.
Agreed, I don't really hear any of that. If I was being generous, maybe a heavily reworked section from Circus Maximus but truthfully I don't hear it.
Could be a spontaneous jam, or maybe it's something they're working on. Who knows.
#132 Re: Guns N' Roses » SOG single coming? » 209 weeks ago
This shows how out of the loop I am....
I still thought this song was unreleased. My memories of Ballad of Death is fans begging hoarders to leak it years ago.
If it's released then yeah....it doesn't mean anything.
Yeah, whilst it's not on the official tracklist, it is performed on the A4D Live CD/DVD release. Why Bumblefoot's songs from that release don't yield that result? Perhaps because they've formally being released solo by him whereas Ashba's creation is probably just a credit on a GN'R release.
I still haven't heard anyone come up with a convincing suggestion for why these search results for unreleased GN'R song titles would associate with GN'R in Spotify's system apart from ones which if true would cause all sorts of shit to appear for a variety of artists.
Only convincing explanation to my mind is these tracks are registered in Spotify's system or a record label system that they connect with and that's where the link is. Does that mean they're definitely getting released? Of course not, it's GN'R.
#133 Re: Guns N' Roses » SOG single coming? » 209 weeks ago
If any of this stuff true and we're on the verge of new material...it means that it's probably one of two things...
A surprise release
An online only release
I suppose it could be similar to Hard School but would they really release an album where it takes months to buy a physical copy?
My excitement was at a 9....Ballad of Death knocked it down to a 3.
Could be online only and months later physical. Oddly, I reckon the physical release availability probably matters more these days for anniversary collections than it does for new releases.
#134 Re: Guns N' Roses » So GNR played Rock In Rio yesterday... » 209 weeks ago
My view is the following are absolute must plays. The ones where if someone was going to a GN'R show and it was their first one and they didn't get these, they'd be rightly pissed off.
Welcome to the Jungle
Sweet Child O' Mine
Paradise City
November Rain
On the level below that if you missed too many of these in a set you'd also be rightly pissed off, but could accept a couple of them being missed
You Could Be Mine
Patience
KOHD
LALD
Don't Cry
After that... pick anything. A few well other well known ones, new tracks and some deep cuts. Honestly, they should just lock in the nine songs listed above and then rotate the entire rest of the set every tour cycle to keep the shows fresh. This has been the same basic core set since 2016.
Making ISE, Brownstone, CD, Better, DTJ, Estranged, RQ, Civil War and Nightrain rotational would freshen up these sets a lot. If they ever shorten their shows they'll have to consider it.
#135 Re: Guns N' Roses » SOG single coming? » 209 weeks ago
Axl S wrote:sp1at wrote:but looks like an EP
This something you've heard or you just speculating like the rest of us?
Just speculating, there's nothing anywhere, even interviews are locked down, have been for months
Spotify search works on meta tags, so there has to be something on there somewhere, I assume
Good to know. Yeah, there has to be something in the metadata for GN'R's entry in their system as an artist and/or their tracks and albums that relates them to these search terms.
Question is - has that metadata ended up filled with shit from things like user's local files, their searches, their playlists, and/or sources online? Personally, I think that's unlikely. It would seem like a surefire way to ruin the reliability of your search feature if you're Spotify.
So, if it's an upcoming release, that's great. My other theory is - these titles have been around associated with the GN'R project for years, what if they exist on one of UMG's internal systems somewhere that Spotify connects to. But, that wouldn't explain why this starts happening now.
You got any insight into what systems a record co like UMG use and what industry platforms companies like Spotify, Apple, etc. connect to?
#136 Re: Guns N' Roses » SOG single coming? » 209 weeks ago
I’m convinced that these songs are uploaded to Spotify’s system. Good explainer on the thread in HTGTH that explains the regional differences in the results too.
What I’m less convinced about is whether the switch will ever be flipped to make them active or if instead “plans change”.
#137 Re: Guns N' Roses » SOG single coming? » 209 weeks ago
I decided to go on Spotify and try out my own experiment.
I searched two unreleased Soundgarden songs fans have wanted for a decade+...
Oceans Front and Summation
Nada.
Yeah, someone tried it with unreleased Stones tracks and didn't get anything. If you try Face It Alone, for that new unreleased Queen song that is coming out - Queen pops up.
#138 Re: Guns N' Roses » SOG single coming? » 209 weeks ago
So, could the lack of studio material on the UYI set be intentional so as not to compete with a new album?
It's possible. It's why when I saw the bonus content was just live audio I still thought "That leaves room for new songs".
One title I'm wondering if we'll see turn up is Seven. The General, Thyme, Leave Me Alone (aka Soul Monster, confirmed by Axl in 08) and Seven were the four tracks Beltrami worked on and the first three are now turning up. Every chance Seven has had a rename in the years since.
God, I wish I could get more excited about this but GN'R pessimism is stopping me.
#139 Re: Guns N' Roses » SOG single coming? » 209 weeks ago
So in the UK the following pop GN'R as a result now, some of them when partially complete or misspelled
"atlas shrugged"
"state of grace"
"the general"
"soul monster"
"perhaps"
"thyme"
And if I use a VPN for Sweden I also get results for "zodiac".
If I tack on Hard Skool & Absurd to that I'm up to 9 tracks for a potential album. Throw in either covers, song titles we don't know etc. and you're closer to a 10-15 track release.
Obviously, there could be nothing to this Spotify stuff, but I struggle to see how this is their algorithm getting messed up for these terms by fans searching stuff or from doing NLP on random old articles about the band. If that was happening, it would be happening for other artists too and Spotify's search functionality would be universally hated by users.
I'm inclined to believe these songs may actually have been added to Spotify and just aren't live/active yet. What I'll always feel less certain about with GN'R is whether they ever do go live or if "plans change".
#140 Re: Guns N' Roses » UYI Box tracklist unveiled? » 209 weeks ago
Disappointment over the lack of demos seems universal:
It's because as far as anniversary releases go it's a damp squib.
Normally the exciting things in these releases are new content. Live audio is technically new but not very exciting, especially when the band has already done official releases of live audio in the past (see Live Era). Live video is exciting but only hardcore music fans watch concert films. That leaves the new version of November Rain. It'll be interesting to hear the track with a real orchestra but that's it, it's a novelty.
The excitement of good anniversary collections is having content like the above AND new studio stuff - be it unheard demos, unreleased and now finished tracks or even just some alt/new mixes. This release doesn't have any of that and whilst the price isn't AFD steep, it's not cheap either.
This release needed more. My only hope is that the lack of new studio tracks on it has left some promotional space for other "new" material.
