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#1441 Re: Guns N' Roses » Axl Rose Suing Activision / Guitar Hero » 807 weeks ago
It's actually classic reading that lawsuit. Makes me wonder if part of it was written by a fan. It had me laughing at times.
I thought these were funny statements in there:
Despit the fact that Slash has had nothing to do with Guns N' Roses' ongoing popularity and success since 1996...
Oh rly?
Rose and Guns N' Roses pursue a forward-looking outlook rather than one that dwells on the past
No other rock song could prefectly capture this transformative spirit and Faustian bargain theme of GH III than "Welcome to the Jungle". The song itself is about the struggle to overcome in a figurative jungle where "you can taste the bright lights but you won't get them for free" and the ambition that "if you got a hunger for what you see you'll take it eventually"
Kudos for them on actually getting some WTTJ lyrics into the lawsuit.
On February 14th 2010 Guns N' Roses played a Valentines Show at The Rose Bar at the Gramercy Park Hotel in New York city. Tim Riley from Activison was in attendance and approached Rose after the show. In tears, he apologized for the way in which Rose and Guns N' Roses had been mistreated by Activision. He said "I can't sleep at night" and asked Rose to forgive him.
He cried - WTF?
Riley sought to reassure Rose, through his representative Beta Lebeis, that in no uncertain terms, if given the authorisation to use Welcome to the Jungle in GH III, no VR related material would be included and no Slash imagery would be used at all, let alone in association with Guns N' Roses and Welcome to the Jungle.
In numerous conversations occuring in May of 2007, Riley reassured and represented that none of the rumours Rose was reading on the internet regarding the planned use of Slash and VR in GH III were true. For example, in one conversation Riley flatly denied the rumours stating "Come on Beta, you know you can't believe everything you read on the internet".
While the form and substance of these conversations may have occasionally varied the central message and operative language used did not. Riley "guaranteed" that provided Rose agreed to approve Activision's use of "Welcome to the Jungle", there would be no use of Welcome to the Jungle and no VR in GH III.
Finally re the quote above, if what Axl claims is true and clearly this was a big issue for him why the fuck would you not get this shit in writing first. Any dumb fuck with even half an ounce of business acumen would have got Activision to put in writing their assurances re. Slash's image, VR songs etc.
Look I laugh at this lawsuit etc but if what Axl claims may actually be true then it's fucked up what they did to him. BUT as I and others have said for years now, Axl really needs to start getting some professionals running the business side of things for him rather than family, friends and amateurs. If these negotiations had been handled by professionals and all this was in writing not based on "conversations" between Beta and Acitivsion, the lawsuit would have been a slam dunk for him.
#1442 Re: Guns N' Roses » Axl Rose Suing Activision / Guitar Hero » 807 weeks ago
I didn't realise he actually agreed to have Welcome to the Jungle in the game. When he first talked about this issue online I thought it must have been a situation where he didn't authorise the use of Jungle.
If that's the case it seems like he might really be clutching at straws. As for "exploiting the prior association between Slash and GUns N' Roses", suing for that??? Slash has a writing credit on that song he is well within his rights to have his image associated with it.
Makes me think that Axl gave the green light for WTTJ thinking Guitar Hero would make about as big a impact as Grand Tourismo or whatever the fuck his voice was in. GH sales then went ballistic, with Slash's involvement probably really helping kick it along too. Axl having missed the boat now wants to try and profit from it after the horse has bolted.
#1443 Guns N' Roses » Axl Rose Suing Activision / Guitar Hero » 807 weeks ago
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http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2 … ero-makers
Axl Rose is suing Activision Blizzard Inc, the owner of the hit video game Guitar Hero, RadarOnline.com has exclusively learned.
Axl is suing the company for over $20 million dollars for fraud, breach of contract and unjust enrichment, among others claims.
COURT DOCUMENTS: Axl Rose Suing Guitar Hero Makers
In the court filing, Rose sates that he is the majority owner of the trademarks and licensing associated with the band.
Axl has an issue with Guitar Hero III using "Welcome To The Jungle" without his permission.
In the legal documents, Rose states, that there was an agreement to use the song for Guitar Hero III, but "Activision breached the contract when it released GH III which prominently features Slash imagery in direct connection with the use of "Welcome to the Jungle," exploits the prior association between Slash and Guns N' Roses, promotes Slash's and VR's (Velvet Revolver) separate interests and includes VR tracks as available downloads, all of which was and is directly contrary to the contractual obligations of Defendants."
Rose is seeking at least $20 million dollars in damages, punitive damages and other associated costs.
Link to the actual court document:
#1444 Re: Guns N' Roses » DjASHBA Gonna try to stream live (soundcheck) » 807 weeks ago
^ Himself perhaps?
Dj ASHBA™
#1445 Re: Guns N' Roses » Axl's net worth... » 807 weeks ago
Ahh I'm glad you posted that, coz I was scratching my head thinking I'm sure I read a few bits and pieces about Axl feeling the pinch financially, but couldn't recall any.
Of course BBF could have been just joking but I got the impression there was some truth to some of the info.
I have wondered if we would have got the Aussie tour that's coming had the V8 supercars not thrown a million dollars (or whatever the figure was) for him to play at the Sydney event. There were a few other "pay to play" sort of public dates (ignoring the private shows) that they have done around the world on the current tour too. Wasn't the Sturgis gig one of those too?
#1446 Re: Guns N' Roses » DjASHBA Gonna try to stream live (soundcheck) » 807 weeks ago
YEah I don't really care what Slash, DJ or any of them do for promo generally. Something like playing a national anthem is ok and quite cool in my book. Although there are some things that I think are lame, e.g. Slash being on American idol was.
#1447 Re: Guns N' Roses » Axl's net worth... » 807 weeks ago
^ I thought Axl sold his publishing rights to Sanctuary?
Personally I don't think Axl is anywhere near as wealthy as many people suggest.
A cynic may also suggest that all the private shows that he has been doing on the current tour have been purely for financial reasons. Sure they probably have fun at them and they are good money, but I look at the Russian one recently for an example. I looked at the small crowd and the particular demographic that was there. They seemed like the sort of people that a bad ass rocker wouldn't normally give the time of day to - the bourgeois I think Axl called them in a tweet.
This tweet/rant by Axl tells us what he really thinks of most of those private shows.
This was hard comin' as all anyone bsides the band thinks about is the money. Who gives a fuck about the fans, how it sounds or if it fucks up the rest of the tour?! I don't perform for ANYONE in this industry n' no matter how nice, funny or what spin they put on things they're seemingly n' unfortunately all the same. We had a good show here in Sao Paulo n' a bunch of opportunists w/out my knowledge or consent did their best to make it about them b4 hand instead of the fans or there wouldn't have been shit in the Post but hey we got past 'em enough to do r gig. What's really crazy is these same types have the unmitigated gall to feel they're the ones who were taken advantage of!! Fuck the bourgeoisie!! Of course that's not to say there weren't plenty in attendance the other nite who like us got duped as well but the others well... It's not for them or their kind (or stalkers or press agents etc.) It's for u. Thank you Sao Paulo!! Peace, Axl-
If he feels that strongly about them, why do them, unless he badly needs the $$'s from them....
Don't get me wrong I dont' have a problem with Axl doing them and making good dollars off them. But I have wondered that perhas he really needs the dough!
#1448 Re: Guns N' Roses » DjASHBA Gonna try to stream live (soundcheck) » 807 weeks ago
So... DJ stepped into Slash's spot in GN'R, now he's out playing the National Anthem at sports games like Slash does too?
But doing National Anthem's is cool now didn't you get that memo.
However, if a former guitar player does it then he is a shamelss self promotor.
Faldor I thought those cheerleaders looked pretty lame too. What's with all the clothes they are wearing? Was it cold or something?
#1449 Re: The Garden » Rolling Stone The 11 Greatest Rock Feuds Of All Time » 807 weeks ago
^ I never heard that story. Yeah imagine if that had happened!
I also never knew about the Simon and Garfunkel one either. Seems being a tool at hall of fame inductions is par for the course with a lot of these spats.
#1450 Re: Guns N' Roses » DJ on new album, US tour in February » 808 weeks ago
This all feels like groundhog day
Yeah same bat time...
Unfortunately he didn't clarify which part was going to occur again, another album or an intolerable wait mixed with rumours and innuendo
