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#1481 Re: Guns N' Roses » Chinese Democracy Liner Note Discussions *EXTREME SPOILERS* » 940 weeks ago

James Lofton wrote:

Yeah, Buckethead being on 90% of the album is a huge vindication for him. Its a slap in the face to all his haters, and an extreme bitch slap to sites that have tried to censor him and downplay his accomplishments.

Will also be cool for fans to finally have to acknowledge Paul Huge/Tobias instead of drinking the Fortus kool aid for no reason whatsoever. Seven years later, the 2001 lineup finally gets its due. The Fortus worship needs to drop to zero until we have a reason to worship him.

This album will also increase Dizzy's stature among the fanbase. He played a very little role in the past discography.


In my opinion, if there's gonna be a tour, Axl needs to reassemble as much of the 2001 lineup as he can.

I couldn't agree more.

When i saw the first page of that booklet, with Axl on the first page and BH on the second, i realized BH is going to get his dues.  Then i checked out the song credits and it is amazing how much he is still on the record.  I hoped they wouldn't just have Ron redo all of his parts, and that hope has been realized. 

This is a big bitchslap to anyone who thought BH's impact was minimal.

I wouldn't be surprised if BH is in GNR right now.

#1482 Re: Guns N' Roses » GN'R/CD Promotion Materials » 940 weeks ago

This is on myspace now as well.  Uploaded by GNR.

#1483 Re: Guns N' Roses » GUNS N' ROSES' 'Chinese Democracy' Single Best 'Mainstream Rock' Debut » 940 weeks ago

samnuts wrote:

don't get me wrong...i think they are both great songs.  i just think prostitute sounds more contemporary and would be a slightly better fit as a single.  of course, i REALLY like prostitute, so that could be clouding my judgment.

See to me, Prostitute sounds uninspired, cheesy and nothing really stands out.  It has nothing in it that really sounds all that different in any way. 

It's one of those songs though that you either love or hate, there isn't much of a middle ground i've noticed.  I lean more towards the hate side so that could be clouding my judgement as well. 

Cpt Winkler, i agree about that.  TWAT is definently something that stands out, especially that outro. 

I still don't see why TWAT isn't the last song on CD.  That outro would have been the perfect way to close out the album.

#1484 Re: Guns N' Roses » GUNS N' ROSES' 'Chinese Democracy' Single Best 'Mainstream Rock' Debut » 940 weeks ago

samnuts wrote:

i like there was a time, but i don't think it will be a single. my guess is the ballad single will either be prostitute or street of dreams.  i'm hoping for prostitute.

I hope it's not Prostitute. 

I think Street of Dreams or TWAT would be the best bets in this case.  Both of those songs have some great lyrics and some really good musical parts to go with it. 

I could easily see SOD being played on the radio.  To me, that's the 'radio ballad' out of all of them.

#1485 Re: Guns N' Roses » (OLD NEWS!)The Limewire Leaks Discussion » 940 weeks ago

Gagarin wrote:

Guys... there wasn't a 'song' between II and IV.
It's called part IV because it's NOT a sequel to November Rain - they had to change directions. If he wrote This I Love in 1994 that would be several years after he wrote Estranged. It couldn't "originally be the song" because it didn't exist.

The Estranged Video is 'PART IV' - why they called it that in particular - because the video they were planning and intended couldn't work anymore. Steph was gone. Therefore they couldn't shoot the video where she shoots herself in the head while playing Axl's song.

Yeah it can be.

Axl could have originally wrote November Rain and Estranged, but felt there was some piece missing between them.  There was some logical link missing that he wanted to revisit and create to complete the whole ordeal. 

Therefor, he could have taken, with that thought in mind, the concept he felt needed to fall between NR and Estranged and wrote This I Love, the missing link to tie together the two songs.  It makes sense if you look at the messages of NR, TIL and Estranged.  NR is the breakup, TIL is the unrequited love song, and Estranged is about finding yourself after that loss and eventually, acceptance.

#1486 Re: The Sunset Strip » Rob Zombie Debuts New Single » 940 weeks ago

Axlin08 wrote:

Great song.

What amazes me about Rob & John, is you'd think because all of their songs kind of have the same 'vibe' they'd get old. But they don't.

I still haven't tired of their material, and War Zone kicks ass!

I know.  They have a very good vibe together i think.  It's not the same as White Zombie and early Zombie solo, but it kicks a lot of ass.  It's that straight ahead kick you in the teath rock.  9

#1487 Re: Guns N' Roses » GUNS N' ROSES' 'Chinese Democracy' Single Best 'Mainstream Rock' Debut » 940 weeks ago

D-Machine wrote:

There is no way in Hell TWAT will be released over Prostitute and This I Love as the ballad single.

I still don't get what everyone else Gets with that song. Its ok but it to me has pretty bad lyrics.......... Axl rhymes all with all like 10 times and it has some really cheesy bad lyrics...........


Prostitute and This I Love are far superior ballads as well as Catcher.

Because TWAT has balls.

#1488 Re: Guns N' Roses » (OLD NEWS!)The Limewire Leaks Discussion » 940 weeks ago

Axlin08 wrote:
Axl S wrote:

I've got Scraped with no sounds or skips at all just some background fuzz. Like listening to the radio.

Side note: Listen to the lyrics in Sorry. Who thinks it's possibly about the fans and the media?

My personal opinion...

Shackler's Revenge - is about the fans. I don't know if it's a pure out attack, but it's certaintly for a "chosen few".

Don't ever
Try to tell me
How much you care for me
Don't ever
Try to tell me
How much you were there for me

I don't believe there's a reason
I don't believe it
I don't believe there's a reason
I don't believe it

No one is stoppin' you
From doin what you want to do
No one is stoppin you now
Stoppin' you now

Street of Dreams - is about Stephanie Seymour. All of the lyrics.

Scraped - I think is actually a pro-fan, pro-listener song, almost the opposite of Shackler's. I think this song is actually kind of a "give 'em hell" anthem. Never give it up, keep fighting the good fight, kind of song. And balancing that with depression. One moment you feel like a beaten dog, and the next minute you remember YOU'RE the king. You can do anything you accomplish your mind to.

Sorry - is totally about Slash imo.

Madagascar - is about it all as a whole. Whether it be Slash, Steph, the media, bad fans, haters, whatever... I won't be told anymore, that i've been brought down in this storm.

This I Love - I think this is another 'unrequited love' song, not really about anyone in particular. There are parts of this song that could be interpreted to be about Steph, Slash or hell Erin. I really think this was originally the song that was supposed to be sandwiched in-between November Rain & Estranged. This was supposed to be 'Part III' of the Trilogy. Thus the whole 'Estranged is Part IV of the Trilogy' little play on words.

I take these songs the same way you have. 

Maddy is about everything.  Sometimes Axl is addressing the fans, the old band, ex lovers, and even himself and the new band. 

Chinese Democracy follows the same pattern as Maddy.  I think that song is about multiple subjects as well. 

I read the lyrics to Scrapped in the liner notes, and it's really nice to see a song that's really optimistic towards the fan base.

#1489 Re: Guns N' Roses » Chinese Democracy Liner Note Discussions *EXTREME SPOILERS* » 940 weeks ago

And one last thing, i would like to say that Rex and I were right all along.  In Catcher in the Rye, the lyrics is "Won't let you get away from HIM" not "HIS GUN"!   16

#1490 Re: Guns N' Roses » Chinese Democracy Liner Note Discussions *EXTREME SPOILERS* » 940 weeks ago

Does it just irk anyone else that in the first 4 songs, 2 of them contain wrong or incomplete lyrics.  CD doesn't have any of the last verse, and Street Of Dreams is broken in the last actual verse.  It wouldn't even work with the music.  16 

Plus "Has i thought was true before" makes no sense whatsoever.

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