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#1492 Guns N' Roses » BBF and Frank's Jam on Talking Metal » 991 weeks ago

DoubleTalkingJive
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Here is this amazing jam with BBF, Frank and the talking metal guys and I must say they did an awesome job playing Judias Priest's Running Wild  9 5


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#1493 Re: Guns N' Roses » What Did You Guys Think Of This Rant...? » 991 weeks ago

buzzsaw wrote:

I think we're starting to get into technicalities now.  Let me take it to the extreme:

A guy is kicking the shit out of his wife daily.  After a few years of this, she finally decides to leave him.  Are you going to say the wife is responsible for changing her way of thinking?

Obviously this is an exaggeration, but the point is valid.  If you're treated in a way you don't appreciate and finally decide you aren't going to take it anymore, then you made the decision to leave, but the way you were treated was the cause.

True but this isn't just how they were treated, it's the whole ball of wax down to types of songs and how they artistically disagreed and no one would budge so they left.   Bottom line is for me, I don't believe it was one man that broke this band up, I think it's alot of variables that indeed involves all of them and it just couldn't work anymore and Axl defends that by this rant.   I can't believe that Axl just shit on them for years and then suddenly they couldn't take it and left, I am sure their actions caused reactions of Axl to them and vice versa before they actually left.

I understand what you are saying and Axl certainly had a way of doing things as it's been reported but I certainly think it's waay to heavy a load to just blame him as so many people do.

#1494 Re: Guns N' Roses » What Did You Guys Think Of This Rant...? » 991 weeks ago

buzzsaw wrote:
DoubleTalkingJive wrote:
A Private Eye wrote:

Like Slash says in BTM, anything you've heard about Axl or whatever you think of him based on his behavior and actions is also the source of what drives him and the reason he's such a great frontman and songwriter. To be without the mood swings and tempers would be to be without the mesmerising performances and songs.

Ultimately this is what they are saying led to the demize of the band and how it's all Axl's fault.  That's my point, so if Slash admits this is what made Axl great then really how can he be at fault for the band's breakup.  Axl was being Axl and the Axl he's always been.

That doesn't mean it wasn't his fault.  It can be someone's fault for being themself.  Sometimes in life you decide to stick with someone or a relationship that you know isn't good for you because you don't know what else to do.  Eventually you figure out how bad it really is and you move on.  Nothing changed other than one person realized that whatever good came wasn't worth the bad that came with it.

Fault is really the wrong word - I think Axl is most responsible for it, but it isn't necessarily his fault.  Slash knew that if the band was going to be huge, they needed Axl, so they put up with a lot of shit that they didn't necessarily want to because they felt they had to including signing over the rights to the name.  Eventually they decided putting up with Axl wasn't worth it.  Axl didn't change, but it was his actions/decisions that are mainly responsible for what happened.

You're right fault is the wrong word.    One thing cannot be disputed is the evolution of GNR with the UYI's as I posted before, that entire tour was unbelievably successful and maybe Axl wanting change even moreso going forward with GNR after TSI was obviously just too much for Slash, Duff and Matt.

Soooo can we say that the demise of GNR is not because of mostly the actions of one man but because of how the others may have changed in how they dealt with situations in the past, bascially Axl being Axl and them not dealing with that anymore. 

Now I ask who ultimately broke the band up tho, the one acting the same or the ones who chose to leave?  Or maybe can we say it was a more even ground since the one person that has gotten all the blame really didn't change his colors at all and was always trying to keep GNR going but it was the others who turned their backs.

Food for thought

#1495 Re: The Garden » DNA match in 1975 murder case » 991 weeks ago

DNA is DNA rot in hell you fucker Finger.gif  I love how they are caught with scientific evidence that proves them without a doubt and they still are like, I didn't do it.

I hope he rots in jail to his last breath.  Unreal these fuckers do this to children, poor girl.  sad

#1496 Re: The Garden » What have you bought yourself today? » 991 weeks ago

I bought my self an top for work and a leggins for weekend wear big_smile

#1497 Re: The Garden » Food Poisoning » 991 weeks ago

luckylittlelady wrote:

I've had something called campylobacter  before that I caught from cow poo.  I worked at a vets and had to  package some samples to send to the pathologists and must have got it on me somehow.  You don't want to know the details 18

Oh dear, that doesn't sound fun at all sad

#1498 Re: Guns N' Roses » What Did You Guys Think Of This Rant...? » 991 weeks ago

A Private Eye wrote:
DoubleTalkingJive wrote:

You also can't say they didn't know who Axl was going into this with them.  He had many temper tantrums during AFD, example throwing the microphone at the tech guys if the sound wasn't right.  They knew he was a loose cannon so you can't be surprised at some of the antics that happened along the way.

Like Slash says in BTM, anything you've heard about Axl or whatever you think of him based on his behavior and actions is also the source of what drives him and the reason he's such a great frontman and songwriter. To be without the mood swings and tempers would be to be without the mesmerising performances and songs.

Ultimately this is what they are saying led to the demize of the band and how it's all Axl's fault.  That's my point, so if Slash admits this is what made Axl great then really how can he be at fault for the band's breakup.  Axl was being Axl and the Axl he's always been.

#1499 Re: The Sunset Strip » Dexter (Spoiler Alert) » 991 weeks ago

Yeah, wouldn't that be messed up if she figured out the Dex is the one.   The FBI guy is right on with the manefesto.   Now Deb is inlove with him because he is a father figure type.

When he said so close to him, I am always one step ahead of you and then head butted Doekes I literally was like heeeell yeeaaah and then when he Doakes was hitting him I was like aww man, hit him back but course that would screw up what he was doing.  Totally was a great acted scene too.

#1500 Re: The Garden » Food Poisoning » 991 weeks ago

Ahh the joys of being married, that's when you see all the down and dirty stuff.  smile

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