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#1511 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 357 weeks ago

mitchejw wrote:
Randall Flagg wrote:

I don’t feel informed enough to have a strong opinion.

Truer words have not been written.

The sad part is you don’t understand how that sentence is the biggest divide between you and I, and why you’re a huge asshole whose opinion isn’t considered worth a damn here, just as I have a hunch it isn’t in your personal life either.

You should seriously consider some therapy with a solid psychologist for your anger issues. I did a few years ago, and it really improved my happiness and outlook.

#1512 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 357 weeks ago

I don’t feel informed enough to have a strong opinion other than disgust, but I read that Acosta had his hands tied because the state and county prosecutors refused to take any action due to his status as a huge donor. That’s what the lead police detective in the case says anyway. Underage sex isn’t a federal crime, so while the age of consent is 18 in Florida, the Feds can’t indict for state crimes.

I’m in no way saying this is factual, but it should at least be researched before crucifying Acosta for doing what local prosecutors refused to do for possibly nefarious reasons.

I just have a hunch the media is finally covering Epstein because they can create a correlation in the minds of the stupid to Trump.

#1513 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 357 weeks ago

mitchejw wrote:
buzzsaw wrote:

When there's no substance to your stance, you have no choice but to respond emotionally and try to guilt people into supporting it.  You can't have an intellectual discussion about it because you know you can't win. 

Let's just pretend for a second that all these liberal ideas are good ones.  Some of them are, some aren't but let's pretend they all have merit.   How are we going to pay for it?  Don't say tax the rich because the rich aren't giving up their money. What other ideas do you have?

I dont give a shit about changing your mind. You’re a lost cause.

Ha, dude you’re the forum troll. The only defender you have after your racist tirade is the guy who used to link Alex Jones articles and still thinks Trump conspired with Putin. No one gives a flying fuck what you post or think. You’re a joke to every single poster here. Insult my military service, call me names, scream “MAGA”!  You’re a fool and every single poster here has called you on it.

Seriously, I think you should take a break. Otherwise your account will be banned soon. Maybe you can’t see this, but you’ve crossed the line too many times. This isn’t the forum for you.

#1514 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 357 weeks ago

AOC represents the logic and drive of the modern Democratic party and leftist politics in this country.  Yea, she's cooky and says a lot of retarded shit  But she's sure of herself and feels like she's somehow making a difference being a complete dipshit that those in power regularly acknowledge.  She's the uninformed, but passionate liberal. 

Pelosi needs these people.  They vote for Democrats, so paying lipservice to absurd notions like gender fluidity and #metoo is a farce democrats will parrot to get the AOC's to show up in the polls.  As you said, the Republicans do the same sleazy thing with the Tea Party dipshits via Palin previously, and I can't think of anyone more full of shit than Trump.  People who take his rhetoric seriously and support it are just as bad as the people who feign outrage at every tweet.

It's all populism, pure and simple.  No side is better than the other at it.  Only nutters protest in the street.  How many of you have attended a rally for a social cause in the past 3 years?  I mean actually march in one or demonstrate - not casually observe from a safe distance as I often do.  People who protest are generally not very well informed.  Whether it was Occupy Wall Street or "Keep your government hands off my medicare", it was filled with stupid people.  The only smart people in any of these events, are the actual leaders and organizers, because they realize an angry mob is a powerful platform for their personal agenda.  Loud mouths on the internet who recite this nonsense from the comfort of their chair are just angry, bitter people who need an outlet to vent their frustration that the world doesn't align to their view.  Twitter is a cesspool, and any media outlet that cites it as an indicator of public opinion is a fraud. 

We are objectively better than we were 10 years ago - to say nothing of who deserves credit if anyone does.  Our quality of life is the best it's ever been in history.  And yet people want to get distracted and pretend they give a fuck about migrants they see on television living in better conditions than they were 6 months ago.  We all know the world isn't going to end in 12 years.  None of these people on the extremes offer a practical solution.  It's just passionate drivel that makes them feel like they're a good person - a better person than you - because they said some words.  You can see it a few posts up, someone claiming to be a better human being because they have an opinion on something they've not enacted a calorie of labor to manifest into reality.  This is what AOC represents, and why she's different than Palin.

No one took Palin serious after the 2008 election; arguably months earlier.  Once Palin opened her mouth to the world, anyone with an IQ over 100 and every personality on TV recognized she was a mouthpiece for uneducated, white conservatives who had the internet and cable telling them east coast liberals were coming to their farm to tell them how to live.    CNN wasn't running segments on how credible Palin was.  The Washington Post wasn't writing articles in support of whatever stupid agenda Palin offered between shopping sprees and raising a bunch of shitty, spoiled kids.  Palin wasn't taken seriously, so she could say retarded shit and we all knew it was just gibberish.  Now AOC can tweet her New Green Deal that would cost the GDP of the planet several times over within 10 years, and she's treated as credible in the mainstream media.  It was just a couple months ago every candidate for 2020 was pledging support for the fucking thing. 

Remember when the most outrageous thing Palin said as a "leader" was using bullseyes on vulnerable democratic districts for 2010?  The mainstream media feigned outrage at the absurdity of using a target symbol which was supposed to represent condoning murdering democratic candidates in cold blood.  Compare that to the antisemitic and absolute nonsense that comes from our 4 youngest and most intelligent female representatives every single day.   

The left can't win the debate intellectually.  You can't support the immigration, education, medical, and taxation policies of the Democratic frontrunners, and claim to have any foot in reality.  A 70% income tax on the wealthy isn't going to pass congress.  We're not going to welcome millions of illiterate migrants into this country and provide them with medicine and housing.  Free college for all isn't going to happen.  No rational person can believe any of this can happen between 2020 and 2024, using the legislative process.  So they've made a moral one, and you're now a bad person if you don't support the lunacy of their propositions that have no chance in every becoming real.  That's what AOC is, she's someone to tell people if they're good or bad based on how quickly and devoutly they spout utter nonsense.  Palin just spouted utter nonsense.

#1515 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 358 weeks ago

I’m seriously questioning if Mitch is a real person and not just one of SLC’s alternate accounts. He has a history of doing that on forums, and I just think Mitch is too much to be a real person. If he’s a real person, he’s doing this intentionally. No one is this obtuse.

#1516 Re: The Sunset Strip » HBO's A Game of Thrones » 358 weeks ago

Hmm, you really dislike Aegon?  I can’t say I’m a fan, but he didn’t irritate me like he seems to have irritated you. I think he has the potential to be a great king and will probably ride Viseryion (Fire and Blood makes it clear dragons can’t/won’t fly beyond the wall, so I don’t think we’ll get the retarded wight capture nonsense).

I think he’s a Blackfyre, so I’m expecting Blood Raven to do some shit to end that. But I think with Dorne and the Stormlands united, I could see the Vale making a move with Sansa trying to marry Aegon. Little finger has no friends in the North, and with the Bolton’s and Frey’s controlling the the North and the Riverlands, her usefulness is better served trying to ally with Aegon. With winter coming, travel in the North is going to be impossible. I don’t know how they’ll have a major battle there with armies from the south.

#1517 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 358 weeks ago

misterID wrote:

They did deny toothbrushes, etc., under Obama and did separate families. Obama was incredibly strict, as he should have been, on illegal immigration. The only difference is that Obama didn't use child separation as a deterrent the way the Keebler Elf did. In a lot more cases than what's reported, the boarder agents have no idea if those kids really belong to the adult that brought them. One of the reasons Mexico is cracking down is because of the potential of kidnappings, which has been happening. Don't bring your children to the boarder.

You can apply for asylum from your own country without making that trip.


Dude, you're arguing with a wacky conspiracy theorist and his lackey who enjoys posting nonsense online.  If anyone can point to an intelligent post the truther or the bigot have posted in the past 6 months, let me know.  I just see two unhinged people getting their kicks attacking strangers on the internet.  They must be really sad and lonely in real life.  I feel sorry for them.

#1518 Re: The Sunset Strip » HBO's A Game of Thrones » 358 weeks ago

Shit, you're right.  I forgot it was her sister that had the kid.

Maybe.  I'm trying to reconcile what the show did with what position the characters are in.  I think Roose is too smart in the books to be betrayed like that by Ramsay, and Ramsay too stupid to concoct any kind of real plan.  Doesn't Roose have Ramsay surrounded by people keeping him informed on Ramsay's every move?  Unlike the show, if Roose dies, why would the northern lords and Frey's stay loyal to Ramsay if Roose gets knifed?  I think this is why Martin is so late with the books.  He knows what has to happen, but he's struggling to get the characters to these points without being completely retarded like they did in the show. 

I also don't think Jon and Dany will hookup in the book.  I think that's going to be Aegon and Dany.

#1519 Re: The Sunset Strip » HBO's A Game of Thrones » 358 weeks ago

misterID wrote:

It's pretty cool looking back at things, such as the gnarled hand that wakes Jon out of the dream when he's fighting the others with a flaming sword. But the Dragon glass Ghost found was wrapped in an old night's watch cloak.  I always assumed it was just some old night's watch brother. Now, I think that cloak had to be Blood Ravens.

If Jon is meant for Dany, it took balls to write Val's character. I dig her a million times more than Dany.

Mance is a badass in the books.

You think Jon was on track to be romantic with Val?  He took her son from her, so I’d be surprised to see that happen. It’s the same reason I don’t know if Mance is truly on Jon’s side. If Tormund can get the wildlings south of the wall, they’d be in a good position to approach the winner between Ramsay and Stannis.

#1520 Re: The Sunset Strip » HBO's A Game of Thrones » 358 weeks ago

misterID wrote:

I like the theory Euron Greyjoy was supposed to be Bran but basically turned to the dark side. The "one eyed crow" I don't think is a coincidence, nor Bloodraven choosing a cripple now.

Researching Bloodraven his banner was a white Dragon with red eyes. Could he be orchestrating things for Jon? Mormont's Raven called Jon "King Snow" the day he died. Could BR have been watching Jon this whole time? Though, I think most ravens have some part of dead greenseers inside them, if I read that Bran chapter right where he warged into a crow and found the girl inside it. Bloodraven was also
Lord Commander of the Night's Watch. Any coincidence Ghost is an albino like BR and discovered the Dragon glass? have a feeling Rickon has gone full Warg and is now one with Shaggy Dog.

Yea, I fully agree Bloodraven was behind most of the story, at least with Jon.  He sent the direwolves, and he's warging Mormont's Raven during the election, among many other things.  Some people think he was warging the boar that killed Robert, and Robert taking the boar's eye certainly leads some credence to that, but fans have a tendency to put BR behind everything and I don't know if I want to go down that rabbit hole.  You should read the Dunk and Egg tales.  The 2nd book is really good and you get to see BR in his prime. 

I like the Euron theory, but I also think it would be more interesting if Euron was serving the Drowned God and GoT was really about the gods using mortals to fight their war.  You should read the sample Aeron chapter Martin has released for TWOW.  You get to see how truly evil and powerful Euron is.

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