I would agree that it's very obvious bucket was the one who came up with the guitar progression and the riffs, but to me it's real speculation to say that because he wrote that, then  Ron's solo is a copy of Bucket's original solo.

Does it sound like it fits in Bucket's style? Yes. But then it's not really a surprise that Ron would add something that sounds like bucket's style over the top of guitar riffs that were in bucket's style! More importantly, it also sounds a LOT like Ron - the fretless, the chirping use of sliding harmonics when he plays, and the outro tapping riffs are distinctive Bumblefoot hallmarks - just the same way that bucket has many tell-tale tricks in his playing like the killswitch, those atonal runs, whammy pedal etc. Like how you can hear Bucket's solo in CD is bucket a mile off.

I would say it's pretty clear Bumble composed his own solo using his own go-to devices put picked something appropriate to the rest of the track which as Axl said is dripping with Bucket! To say otherwise is like saying Slash wrote the sorry solo because it's in his style.

As for the writing credit, it's quite common not to get a writing credit just for a guitar solo - although it depends on the band - but traditionally publishing stuff ends up about the lyrics and melody overall - stuff like solos and drum fills gets ignored. Hell look what happened to slash on estranged!

No one is disputing the original production was Brain and Bucket though.....I'm just saying that because we're fans of Bucket there's no reason to attribute someone else's work to him - he's great enough on his own. There wasn't much left to do for poor bumble when he joined - all he really got was 3 guitar solos and a handful of riffing here and there - and then he waited for 7 years for the follow up that didn't happen....let him have his moment! The linear notes say he played it, he says he developed it, it sounds like something he wrote..so there's no real reason to minimise that just cos the rest of the track is buckethead.

Hope this doesn't come off as me being a dickhead but I think you're wrong about Shackler's.

Actually he's not. The album credits bucket as a co-writer, co-arranger and guitarist on the track but the linar notes also specifically credit the solos to Bumblefoot.

You can hear very faintly in the background of the rock-band clips the original solo (mute all but vocals and additional instruments and you an hear some soft spill noise from the performer's playback) - but it's basically almost inaudible and not much use for the purposes of telling if the subsequent bumble-foot solo had any resemblance to it.

If anything, you could probably say that it was significantly different as that's why it's obvious that the spill is from an older take and not the album version.

No it isn't - the outro is also bumble.

Rock Brigade magazine, October 2008

Rock Brigade: How was to record "Shackler's Revenge" [the new GUNS N' ROSES song which is featured on the Rock Band 2 soundtrack]? You did the solo (with your fretless), some rhythm in the pre-chorus and the last shredding in the ending, right?

Thal: If I remember right (barely remember anything more than five minutes ago, haha) it was one of the first songs we worked on. I played all the solos — the fretless solo followed by the fretted solo, the end tapping stuff and the bends over it — also the rhythms throughout the song with all the riffing in them.

I couldn't disagree with that more, it sounds entirely in his style to the point where you can hear it's bumblefoot distinctly as opposed to a similar virtuoso player.

I really wanna go to this. Although I'm also glad I got to see Brian again one last time.

Brian is and will forever be the man, but Axl was always a great idea - the only doubt was does he still have enough rasp and the recent shows demonstrate it.

Simple...the fans come back because he is talented....the abused women come back because of psychological issues....Slash came back for dollars and also business interests (let's be honest nu-gnr wasn't doing GNR's long term sales image any favours).....

But I'm not really anti-Axl...actually whenever he talks I kinda like him....I think if he was a regular joe and lived in my area we'd be friends...hahah....i was just playing around cos it seemed silly to me to pretend that the media only hates him because he hates them....let's be real....Axl's been his own worst enemy for decades....