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#1541 Re: The Sunset Strip » Soundgarden Discussion (King Animal out NOW!) » 722 weeks ago
AIC or Soundgarden?
When I first listened to King Animal, I thought that too other than a couple tracks like Bones of Birds, Taree & Rowing, which I immediately loved.
But it's a rich album experience, going back in and listening to it again and again, you start to get what a full on return it is. Like Been Away Too Long. I absolutely slammed it in the beginning, then suddenly I listened a couple more times, then it became kind of relevant to my own personal life, suddenly it just clicked with me, and boom it was a 'whole new world. By Crooked Steps was like that with me as well.
#1542 Re: The Garden » Elementary School Shooting in US » 722 weeks ago
I completely agree with that idea. There are plenty of guys that if they had to pass more stringent tests and got hit with bigger taxes on having guns... they wouldn't have them.
I'm not gonna lie, EVERY SINGLE GUY that I know that owns an assault rifle is a small dicked, idiotic, borderline crazy, douche bag. Usually they have them because they're trying to compensate for their extra 50 pounds and 2 inch dick. Think football jocks back in high school. Those types own assault rifles.
Those cats surely need more rules, if not their assault rifles taken away.
#1543 Re: Guns N' Roses » www.paradisecity.com » 722 weeks ago
^ I see it the other way.
Who is winning? What is uni getting other than the devaluation of the back catalogue of one of the greatest bands in history?
Meanwhile Axl can just play private shows for a million dollars a hit.
Sure he can't release music...but who says he even wants to...and it could always leak *again* if he started getting antsy that he'd die and it would be lost....
Bottom line...while hardcores want GNR to be a functional band...Axl can earn a living as a greatest hits tribute show....and make millions doing it....while UNI isn't getting shit out of it.
True, but Axl is valuing fucking Uni and his fans, over artistic integrity and a purpose for existing musically.
I mean, great he's getting paid and getting revenge, but imo if that's what he's about, than he's a bigger pussy money whore than Slash. He makes Slash look like Kim Thayil, and if that's Axl's game, what a fucking weak sauce move. He's an embarassment, and no different than Bret Michaels. Axl might as well start doing Celeb Apprentice.
#1544 Re: The Sunset Strip » The Video Game Console Thread » 722 weeks ago
Hey Smoke, here's our original Red Dead Redemption thread at Evo
It might give you some insight to what we were all thinking at the time playing it new together.
#1545 Re: The Sunset Strip » The Video Game Console Thread » 722 weeks ago
It's been a few years since i've played it at this point (shockingly for me too). The last time I played it regularly was when Undead Nightmare got released in the Fall of 2010 (perfect timing originally; right in time for Halloween--loved it).
But I did go back and do some shooting n' fun about a year later, but not all the way through both storylines. I think I might do it again this summer after I get done with GTAV for awhile. It'll be hot outside, and fit the tone of the hot, dusty, desert terrain of Red Dead again, and it would be a good time do a fresh write up (like I plan for the Max Payne Trilogy here soon).
I hope it won't be too late. I might already have a write-up deeper in this thread. We also had a Red Dead Redemption thread I thought, can't remember.
#1546 Re: Guns N' Roses » www.paradisecity.com » 722 weeks ago
It's a decent idea, that would still need some base level promotion on their part, even if it's dropping a few phone calls for e-mails to news outlets. That would help, plus the basic social media virality.
Anything in that vault would have to be pre-approved and cleared by the label for release in that manner. After that I don't see why it wouldn't work. It'd be a great grassroots route to hype... but a poor money maker, and ultimately Uni would bury it because of it.
They're still blackmaling Axl on the reunion as far as i'm concerned. The thing is... he should've gave in years ago. They beat him long ago.
#1547 Re: Guns N' Roses » Tokyo 2012 Ear Monitor Clips » 722 weeks ago
It actually sounds suprisingly good, both of them. If the entire show sounds like that, it'd be nice if an officially mixed and packaged released would happen one day, but then again they cover so many fucking songs, I wonder if the rights shit would be a nightmare.
#1548 Re: Guns N' Roses » Guns N' Roses Australian Tour 2013 » 722 weeks ago
Axlin12 wrote:"The Pulling Our Shrinking Dicks 2013 Australian Tour"
While GN'R continue to wipe with "the brand", i'll be watching, listening, and keeping track of actual bands in the new year, AIC/Soundgarden, and I hope more to add to the roster.
Axlin's New Year's Resolution?
Moving the fuck on from Guns. RIP 1987-1993.
Maybe we should re-brand the site as bandsthatactuallydososmethingevolution.com
Hahahaha, absolutely.
Axlin12 wrote:Naltav pretty much nailed it.
When you're down to rationalizing "they didn't play Civil War or Estranged last time"... just shows you the joke this has become. Especially when it's by a bunch of guys who didn't even record the song. This ain't like dusting off Oh My God or Riad N' The Bedouins.
Yeah, but for years people were pleading for them to dust off songs like "Estranged" and "Civil War", and they did. And now, it's not cool anymore? Obviously we'd all love for their to be (more) forward progress, as in releasing new music. It is SOMETHING though. At least they've added a few different songs each leg. I loved hearing Estranged, Nice Boys, Used to Love Her, hell even Whole Lotta Rosie. Didn't get to hear Civil War, TWAT, CITR. Would love to hear them. Would also love to hear other rarely played CD songs, Dead Flowers, and (close your eyes Metallex) The Seeker.
There are still plenty of reasons to see the band live in my opinion, despite the growing frustration of them running in place.
Hmm... I completely disagree here. I think if it was the actual artists who wrote those songs, i.e. the AFD or UYI GN'R playing them and recycling them on a reunion tour, I would agree with you.
But for a cover band, I just don't see that attribute as something i'm willing to pay for any longer as a fan, short of a cheap PPV or officially released live show. But to drop $100 bucks PER SEAT on it... come the fuck on. Are you serious? Whatever dope you're on, mail me some.
There is no way that makes sense. If it does for you... wow. Cycling out UYI songs with this band and a helium powerless Axl (most of the time) is just not worth it financially. Not at these prices. But if they want to drop a single, and work a few into the set off a new album... I would also agree with you.
So...
More songs w/ reunion = thumbs up
More songs w/ a few new songs = thumbs up
The shit we got now = utterly worthless, even to those who haven't heard them live
It just doesn't make sense to me. "I haven't heard them live", then YouTube that shit and save yourself the money. But remember this is coming from someone who's seen a few different shows and versions of the new Guns, so unless you absolutely have NOT seen Guns since 1993, seeing them in this form just seems... I don't get it.
As a band you exist for a REASON. PERIOD. Or you go the fuck home. Finding NEW COVERS is not a reason. Why that logic seems to not be a big deal to some is a HUGE deal for me. I really don't get that logic at all.
For example,
How can Axl Rose call himself a Neil Young fan and yet he conducts himself is the pussy conformist way he performs?
That I don't get. If Axl was a true Neil fan, he'd go out there, open with Coma, then do a guitar solo himself to intro Dead Horse, then another to do Madagascar, then perform the next album from front to back (like 14 songs), and encore with Nightrain, Jungle, and Paradise City and tell everyone that nay says it to "suck his fucking dick".
I thought that was who Axl Rose was back in the day... boy I was WAY FUCKING WRONG. But the good news is is there's still hope. Axl can change his routine literally tomorrow. He's still got it, and the world still loves him. He's got a strong band, and a great fanbase. All he has to do is snap his fingers and it's done. THAT is why I hang around. He can change that. He can greenlight a reunion if he wanted. He holds that power, and he's still young enough to do it, and make great new music and people like it.
But without that, I don't see much point for him to even leave his house. So he's played Jungle across the world a bunch of times. It's done we get it... what else 'ya got?
monkeychow wrote:I've been thinking on this....there's a couple of things at play here:
1. First is the phenomenon that it's more boring when it's not in your own area. You guys see no interest in an Aussie tour because you don't live here.
I would have the same amount of interest if they were playing in Australia or my own backyard. They give no reason to be interested since they've been doing the same thing for 12 years. Adding Estranged into the set is not my definition of forward progress.
Much more interesting than anything going on with the band is how the hardcore fans of the new lineup who years ago always talked about the new era burying the old and all that other crap are the ones most satisfied with the current state of affairs while us so called "haters", "reunionists", "realists", or whatever they're called now are the people that want them to actually do something. The forum fans most sick of the past are now the ones more willing to wallow in it. I rarely post in this section but about a month ago some people said that GNR's current strategy is better than Soundgarden's. Really?
SG has done more in 2 years than GNR has in 19 years.
However, in Axl's defence I've been thinking about it - and why do we assume artistically that artists can or should be prolific?
No one but Sebastian Bach will ever accuse him of being prolific. He doesn't have to be prolific(obviously). He seems perfectly satisfied to be a nostalgia act.
Like Mikka, I'm not gonna bother bitching about set lists or anything regarding the upcoming tour because it doesn't matter. It is what it is. A nostalgia act that rotates a member or two every few years playing the same old shit over and over with no album in sight. Some are happy with it, some aren't.
That's why I think when people over at HTGTH comment on the state of GN'R, they shouldn't even bother. Russ commenting is okay, because Russ has proven himself to be an objective thinker and also an ambassador for the band both with fans like myself, as well as backstage. He gets 'people' and the whole deal. He's the type of guy that is the middle guy between 'those types' and guys like myself or Kim's Beard or Mikka that are far more critical of the band existing ONLY for artistic merit, like other bands from GNR's era, other than GN'R themselves.
At this point Axl is Axl, what absolutely boggles my mind is why someone would pay even $70 bucks to hear a cover band play Civil War & The Seeker. Even Axl's covering The Seeker. That just... makes my head want to pop like a grape. I do not get the logic in it at all.
#1549 Re: Guns N' Roses » www.paradisecity.com » 722 weeks ago
AtomsNest wrote:It's also worth noting that with these Backplane sites, the artist is supposed to engage with the fanbase quite a bit. Maybe this is why they've said Slash and Duff might post, though I can't believe they are being serious. Reading how Gaga operates on her site, it'll be interesting to see what Axl does.
Thanks for digging up all that info. For me personally, I've been screaming for years that Axl needs to find a way to be relevant again and embracing technology would be a big step in the right direction.
This is pretty much my feelings. I doubt it'll happen, but at this point i've said before it's the only way. Axl needs to embrace who HE is and fucking forget everything else, because it will take care of itself. Sure he still needs to drop singles on rock radio and put songs on iTunes, and do exclusives n' shit like any other. But he's waiting so long, that even by the time he released CD, the album's release on disc was dated.
Axl could make a big splash in a big way if he could get his name attached to something on the cutting edge. But I understand at this point that's a bigger pipe dream than a GN'R reunion. Axl's got too much quit in him for that to ever happen.
I do feel Axl needs to have Team Brazil looking into newer avenues to release GN'R music than CD's and looking for Wal-Mart to do exclusive releases. That is so yesterday. Whether it's the next new Guns album or it's a full-fledged reunion, it needs to be rolled out next time in modern, current, 2013-way, and not something that makes them all look like disinterested old fogies stuck in 1991, or 2001, respectively.
#1550 Re: The Garden » Happy New Year » 722 weeks ago
That's a tough deal man. I haven't been unlucky enough to have that happen, but i've come close a time or two.
Absolutely best of luck fulfulling that resolution man.
