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#1571 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 366 weeks ago
I have mixed feelings on Trump using executive privilege. Yea, Obama did it to protect Holder, but I feel any effort to prevent Mueller from testifying is bad mojo.
#1572 Re: The Sunset Strip » HBO's A Game of Thrones » 366 weeks ago
Randall Flagg wrote:A Private Eye wrote:Remind me of the time travel moment?
Next weeks preview looks like Tyrion sees or finds something significant in the throne room at Dragonstone?
There’s been 2. When Bran puts “Hold the door” into Hodor, and when he yells at Ned during the tower of joy scene.
I suspect Bran is the one who made Aerys repeatedly yell “Burn them all” too.
But can’t you consider all his flash backs as time travel then?
I’m making a distinction between observing and interacting/changing.
#1573 Re: The Sunset Strip » HBO's A Game of Thrones » 366 weeks ago
Remind me of the time travel moment?
Next weeks preview looks like Tyrion sees or finds something significant in the throne room at Dragonstone?
There’s been 2. When Bran puts “Hold the door” into Hodor, and when he yells at Ned during the tower of joy scene.
I suspect Bran is the one who made Aerys repeatedly yell “Burn them all” too.
#1574 Re: The Sunset Strip » HBO's A Game of Thrones » 366 weeks ago
So is Jon going to be forced to kill Dany?
What the hell is Bran up to? The time travel moment from season 6 hasn’t paid off yet, in fact, none of Bran’s plot has affected the overall story yet.
My tinfoil hat theory is the golden company betrays Cersei for Jon once it gets out who he is. This drives both Dany and Cersei over the edge, and he has to put them both down to save the realm.
#1575 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 366 weeks ago
Randall Flagg wrote:The House has voted to hold Attorney General William Barr in contempt of Congress over his failure to turn over documents related to the Tax Return scandal, the first time Congress has taken such a dramatic move against a sitting Cabinet official.
The vote was 255-67, with 17 Republicans voting in support of a criminal contempt resolution, which authorizes Democrats leaders to seek criminal charges against Barr. This Republican support came despite a round of behind-the-scenes lobbying by senior White House and Justice officials - as well as pressure from party leaders - to support Barr.
Two Democrats, Reps. Steve LaTourette (Ohio) Scott Rigell (Va.), voted against the contempt resolution.Another civil contempt resolution, giving the green light for the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee to sue the Justice Department to get the Tax Return documents, passed by a 258-95 margin. Twenty-one Republicans voted for that measure.
But dozens of other Republicans marched off the floor in protest during the vote, adding even more drama to a tumultuous moment in the House chamber.
The passions of the day were evident inside the Capitol, where Republicans accused Democrats of ginning up the contempt vote for political purposes while Democrats continued to charge the Justice Department with a cover up on the Tax Return scandal.The fight over the Barr contempt resolution also drew intense interest from outside groups ranging from the NAACP to the National Rifle Association.
“Today’s vote is the regrettable culmination of what became a misguided – and politically motivated – investigation during an election year,” Barr said in his statement. “By advancing it over the past year and a half, Congressman Issa and others have focused on politics over public safety. Instead of trying to correct the problems that led to a series of flawed law enforcement operations, and instead of helping us find ways to better protect the brave law enforcement officers, like Agent Brian Terry, who keep us safe – they have led us to this unnecessary and unwarranted outcome.”
Barr added: “Today’s vote may make for good political theater in the minds of some, but it is – at base – both a crass effort and a grave disservice to the American people. They expect – and deserve – far better.”
White House officials also slammed House Democrats for the unprecedented contempt vote. White House Communications Director Dan Pfeiffer said Democratic congressional leaders “pushed for political theater rather than legitimate congressional oversight. Over the past fourteen months, the Justice Department accommodated congressional investigators, producing 7,600 pages of documents, and testifying at eleven congressional hearings… But unfortunately, a politically-motivated agenda prevailed and instead of engaging with the President in efforts to create jobs and grow the economy, today we saw the House of Representatives perform a transparently political stunt.
Burn em at the stake.
Finally they’re actually doing something instead of sitting around with thumbs up their asses.
Hahahahaha. I knew you’d take the bait hook, line and sinker. You’ve just proven in one post what I’ve been saying for a year.
#1576 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 366 weeks ago
The House has voted to hold Attorney General William Barr in contempt of Congress over his failure to turn over documents related to the Tax Return scandal, the first time Congress has taken such a dramatic move against a sitting Cabinet official.
The vote was 255-67, with 17 Republicans voting in support of a criminal contempt resolution, which authorizes Democrats leaders to seek criminal charges against Barr. This Republican support came despite a round of behind-the-scenes lobbying by senior White House and Justice officials - as well as pressure from party leaders - to support Barr.
Two Democrats, Reps. Steve LaTourette (Ohio) Scott Rigell (Va.), voted against the contempt resolution.
Another civil contempt resolution, giving the green light for the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee to sue the Justice Department to get the Tax Return documents, passed by a 258-95 margin. Twenty-one Republicans voted for that measure.
But dozens of other Republicans marched off the floor in protest during the vote, adding even more drama to a tumultuous moment in the House chamber.
The passions of the day were evident inside the Capitol, where Republicans accused Democrats of ginning up the contempt vote for political purposes while Democrats continued to charge the Justice Department with a cover up on the Tax Return scandal.
The fight over the Barr contempt resolution also drew intense interest from outside groups ranging from the NAACP to the National Rifle Association.
“Today’s vote is the regrettable culmination of what became a misguided – and politically motivated – investigation during an election year,” Barr said in his statement. “By advancing it over the past year and a half, Congressman Issa and others have focused on politics over public safety. Instead of trying to correct the problems that led to a series of flawed law enforcement operations, and instead of helping us find ways to better protect the brave law enforcement officers, like Agent Brian Terry, who keep us safe – they have led us to this unnecessary and unwarranted outcome.”
Barr added: “Today’s vote may make for good political theater in the minds of some, but it is – at base – both a crass effort and a grave disservice to the American people. They expect – and deserve – far better.”
White House officials also slammed House Democrats for the unprecedented contempt vote. White House Communications Director Dan Pfeiffer said Democratic congressional leaders “pushed for political theater rather than legitimate congressional oversight. Over the past fourteen months, the Justice Department accommodated congressional investigators, producing 7,600 pages of documents, and testifying at eleven congressional hearings… But unfortunately, a politically-motivated agenda prevailed and instead of engaging with the President in efforts to create jobs and grow the economy, today we saw the House of Representatives perform a transparently political stunt.
#1577 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 366 weeks ago
The tax return demands is nothing more than a game of political oneupsmanship. Mueller just cleared Trump of collusion, if there was anything in his returns, it would have came out then.
This is political grandstanding that will result in nothing more than the children of the DNC spreading more rumors and conjecture that isn’t based on fact. Mnuchin is right, and no court is going to find for the Democrats on this, especially after Mueller declared no collusion.
They want this to selectively leak information to attack Trump, not to govern or legislate.
Buzzsaw is right. Both parties have been absolutely abhorrent the past decade, and only the truly partisans fail to see it.
Trump isn’t going to be impeached or indicted. Beat him at the election booth under the rules of the constitution.
You can take the politico article I linked earlier and swap Holder for Barr and Republicans for Democrats, and it’d read exactly the same. If you don’t see that, you’re the one with blinders on.
#1578 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 366 weeks ago
Don’t you love it when a man who can’t read pretends he can?
#1579 Re: The Sunset Strip » HBO's A Game of Thrones » 367 weeks ago
https://www.reddit.com/r/freefolk/comme … dium=web2x
Seriously check that out. I didn't pick up any of this detail and story cause it was so dark. You probably didn't either. Fantastic scene that completely improves my opinion of the episode.
#1580 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 367 weeks ago
PaSnow wrote:Military force? Depends. I mean, at some point if they don't have a President or Maduro refuses to leave & takes to violence to stay in office, then yeah we need to step in. Just a quick whoop-ass though, Desert Storm/1991/3 days style.
I understand not having the stomach for a drawn out conflict, but I dont get why we dont have the stomach for this and do things half-assed instead. We have the ability to just go in, do what needs to be done and get out before it becomes a big mess, but we don't want to do it. We twiddle our thumbs until it becomes a big mess, then we get involved. Its totally backwards.
I don’t think a quick in and out is possible. In Desert Storm, we didn’t invade Iraq and we didn’t remove Saddam. We just removed his military from Kuwait and pushed them back. We weren’t occupiers and didn’t destabilize the nation.
Venezuela is a total shit hole. Starvation and lack of medicine is it’s current state, with a leader with total control. Sure we could destroy their military and the small Russian contingent present in 72 hours with total war. But I don’t think total war is an option.
And when we remove Maduro or he flees, then what? If we leave, we just created another Iraq. Sure, there will be a lot less jihadists in Venezuela, but we’ll just get a different ideology connected to communism that all extremist groups in Central America derive from. Communists guerillas in the likeness of Che isn’t any better or different than jihadis. They use the same tactics and kill the same minorities.
We topple Maduro, 2 million migrants head towards greener pastures. We already have over 100k illegals entering our country a month and our immigration system is effectively broken. I don’t want to encourage any activity that will result in millions more of hungry mouths unable to work or communicate, entering our nation.
