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#1641 Re: The Garden » 2016 Presidential Election Thread » 535 weeks ago

The Muslim ban, the David Duke denial, the “Mexican” judge flap, the draft dodger denigrating John McCain’s military service, the son of privilege attacking an immigrant Gold Star mother and the constant revisionism and lying about past political positions taken are but a few of the lowlights that have punctuated Donald Trump’s chaotic chase for the presidency.

Any one of these offenses would have disqualified any other candidate for president. But the Republican nominee remained competitive against a historically weak Democratic nominee on the promise of bringing radical change and dramatic disruption to Washington.

That appears to be changing. Post-convention polls show Trump falling behind by double digits both nationally and in must-win swing states like Pennsylvania, New Hampshire and Virginia.

And the political ride will only get rockier for Trump in the coming days after he suggested that one way to keep a conservative Supreme Court after Hillary Clinton got elected would be to assassinate her or federal judges. Trump and his supporters have been scrambling wildly all day to explain away the inexplicable, but they can stop wasting their time. The GOP nominee was clearly suggesting that some of the “Second Amendment people” among his supporters could kill his Democratic opponent were she to be elected.

The presidential candidate that House Speaker Paul Ryan endorsed tried to explain away his suggestion of an assassination by telling Sean Hannity his comments were meant to unite supporters before the election. It’s too bad for Trump and his supporters that his comments related to what Hillary Clinton would do after being elected and nominating Supreme Court justices that gun owners would not like.

We are in unchartered waters but that does not mean that the way forward is not clear. It is.

The Secret Service should interview Donald Trump and ask him to explain his threatening comments.

Paul Ryan and every Republican leader should denounce in the strongest terms their GOP nominee suggesting conservatives could find the Supreme Court more favorable to their desires if his political rival was assassinated.
Paul Ryan and every Republican leader should revoke their endorsement of Donald Trump. At this point, what else could Trump do that would be worse than implying the positive impact of a political assassination?

The Republican Party needs to start examining quickly their options for removing the Republican nominee.

A bloody line has been crossed that cannot be ignored. At long last, Donald Trump has left the Republican Party few options but to act decisively and get this political train wreck off the tracks before something terrible happens.

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#1642 Re: The Garden » 2016 Presidential Election Thread » 535 weeks ago

According to new "Skewed" polling numbers, Hillary has locked down Virginia, Pennsylvania and Colorado. That puts her (today) at 273 EVs to start. She could lose Florida and Ohio and still win.

Here's what my map looks like using RCP data. Anything under a 4 point spread I left undecided.

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#1643 Re: The Garden » 2016 Presidential Election Thread » 535 weeks ago

bigbri wrote:

I think Trump is trying to lose. No other explanation, unless he really is that stupid and/or evil.

I started to sincerely wonder that last week.

#1644 Re: The Garden » 2016 Presidential Election Thread » 535 weeks ago

BUY MOAR GUNZ, THE LIZARD PEOPLE CONTROL HILLARY CLINTON...TRUMP IS OUR ONLY HOPE.

#1645 Re: The Garden » 2016 Presidential Election Thread » 535 weeks ago

misterID wrote:
buzzsaw wrote:

WSJ had an interesting article on Hillary and her lies. Rare to see those in the msm since they are doing everything they can to get her elected. It's no wonder people bury their heads given the support her lies are getting from pretty much everyone.

I know you love saying this over and over about burying heads in the sand, but you're really doing it yourself. I mean, youre literally talking about yourself. You believe and read things you only want to hear. The only time you give the "msm" credit is when it badges Hillary. WSJ is a republican/conservative newspaper. Like the NYT is liberal - who did all they could to try and sabotage Hillary also.

Try out politifact, a nonpartisan site that debumnks myths and calls out lies and you can see all Hillary's lies based on fact, but I know how adverse you are to those.. You can all see Trumps, but be prepared to see a lot of this for old Donald:

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While jumping from one "scandal" to the next, they never seem to realize that she is constantly exonerated by the same Republicans who bring these charges against her. How could this be? What are the odds of a one person crime spree stretching out over three decades, who is consistently found innocent of accusations by the same group of people making them? Surely at some point she would be found guilty of something? But nope...never happens. That sneaky Hillary!

Oh and Obama...he's still coming for your guns. I know he didn't the first term...or the second, but Hillary is going to do it for him. Just wait and see!!!

#1646 Re: The Garden » 2016 Presidential Election Thread » 535 weeks ago

buzzsaw wrote:

WSJ had an interesting article on Hillary and her lies. Rare to see those in the msm since they are doing everything they can to get her elected. It's no wonder people bury their heads given the support her lies are getting from pretty much everyone.

Not surprising, the WSJ is a conservative rag.

As soon as conservatives quit crying foul about the "liberal media", and start addressing their own issues, they can probably win the White House again. The constant victimization mindset leaves them unable to clean up their own backyard and blame everybody else for their problems. I thought they were the party of "personal responsibility"? Guess not.

#1647 Re: The Garden » 2016 Presidential Election Thread » 535 weeks ago

Acquiesce wrote:

Trump suggests the "second amendment people" could shoot Clinton to prevent her from appointing judges and Hillary needs the diazepam?? It's funny how Trump's and his Trumpeters insults towards Clinton actually fit him to a tee.

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This is really fucking overboard. He should be arrested for this.

Of course now he's saying that he was "joking." I don't find it funny at all. Given the lunatics we have in this country, and the easy access to guns, no public speaker with such sway should ever even remotely hint at something like this. It's outrageous.

#1648 Re: The Garden » Awkward story » 535 weeks ago

DCK wrote:

I've been trying to get into good shape this summer, and I am.

So, today this girl I have a thing for was doing this odd roundtrip on public transportation with her friends. I thought I would bike over to one of their stops, as it's just on my way when I'm out biking anyway. And I like her, so, why not. I send her a text and she's like "cool, bring a flag will you". I reply "flags are gay, but I'll do it.". Just because it's her.

So I bike off. It starts to rain immediately. I think "fuck it, I'll do it anyway", and bike for 25 minutes soaked to the bone. I get there fifteen minutes early because I'm actually in good shape. So, I'm standing at the bloody bus stop cold and wet with a bloody flag in my hand. The bus shows up, stops, and these girls get off. And here's the good part; they go the opposite way of me. No one spots me. Not her either. I have to run after them saying "heeeeeey". No one notices. It comes to the point where I start smacking her with my flag to get noticed.

I follow them down to a local fast food thing, but I quickly get my ass out of there. Quite uncomfortable, and fucking wet and cold.

Now, if that wasn't awkward, nothing is.

Did you have a KFC bucket on your head or something?

#1649 Re: The Garden » 2016 Presidential Election Thread » 535 weeks ago

Watch the clip in it's entirety (which is actually difficult because every conspiracy kook and religious nut has grabbed it and edited it for their agenda) and it's clear she's goofing around.

I guess anything is better than talking about how much Trump has cratered over the last week huh?

#1650 Re: The Garden » 2016 Presidential Election Thread » 535 weeks ago

And another steps forward to pen a letter.

The writer, a Republican, represents Maine in the Senate.

I will not be voting for Donald Trump for president. This is not a decision I make lightly, for I am a lifelong Republican. But Donald Trump does not reflect historical Republican values nor the inclusive approach to governing that is critical to healing the divisions in our country.

When the primary season started, it soon became apparent that, much like Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.), Mr. Trump was connecting with many Americans who felt that their voices were not being heard in Washington and who were tired of political correctness. But rejecting the conventions of political correctness is different from showing complete disregard for common decency. Mr. Trump did not stop with shedding the stilted campaign dialogue that often frustrates voters. Instead, he opted for a constant stream of denigrating comments, including demeaning Sen. John McCain’s (R-Ariz.) heroic military service and repeatedly insulting Fox News host Megyn Kelly.

With the passage of time, I have become increasingly dismayed by his constant stream of cruel comments and his inability to admit error or apologize. But it was his attacks directed at people who could not respond on an equal footing — either because they do not share his power or stature or because professional responsibility precluded them from engaging at such a level — that revealed Mr. Trump as unworthy of being our president.

My conclusion about Mr. Trump’s unsuitability for office is based on his disregard for the precept of treating others with respect, an idea that should transcend politics. Instead, he opts to mock the vulnerable and inflame prejudices by attacking ethnic and religious minorities. Three incidents in particular have led me to the inescapable conclusion that Mr. Trump lacks the temperament, self-discipline and judgment required to be president.

The first was his mocking of a reporter with disabilities, a shocking display that did not receive the scrutiny it deserved. I kept expecting Mr. Trump to apologize, at least privately, but he did not, instead denying that he had done what seemed undeniable to anyone who watched the video. At the time, I hoped that this was a terrible lapse, not a pattern of abuse.

The second was Mr. Trump’s repeated insistence that Gonzalo Curiel, a federal judge born and raised in Indiana, could not rule fairly in a case involving Trump University because of his Mexican heritage. For Mr. Trump to insist that Judge Curiel would be biased because of his ethnicity demonstrated a profound lack of respect not only for the judge but also for our constitutional separation of powers, the very foundation of our form of government. Again, I waited in vain for Mr. Trump to retract his words.

Third was Donald Trump’s criticism of the grieving parents of Army Capt. Humayun Khan, who was killed in Iraq. It is inconceivable that anyone, much less a presidential candidate, would attack two Gold Star parents. Rather than honoring their sacrifice and recognizing their pain, Mr. Trump disparaged the religion of the family of an American hero. And once again, he proved incapable of apologizing, of saying he was wrong.

I am also deeply concerned that Mr. Trump’s lack of self-restraint and his barrage of ill-informed comments would make an already perilous world even more so. It is reckless for a presidential candidate to publicly raise doubts about honoring treaty commitments with our allies. Mr. Trump’s tendency to lash out when challenged further escalates the possibility of disputes spinning dangerously out of control.

I had hoped that we would see a “new” Donald Trump as a general-election candidate — one who would focus on jobs and the economy, tone down his rhetoric, develop more thoughtful policies and, yes, apologize for ill-tempered rants. But the unpleasant reality that I have had to accept is that there will be no “new” Donald Trump, just the same candidate who will slash and burn and trample anything and anyone he perceives as being in his way or an easy scapegoat. Regrettably, his essential character appears to be fixed, and he seems incapable of change or growth.

At the same time, I realize that Mr. Trump’s success reflects profound discontent in this country, particularly among those who feel left behind by an unbalanced economy and who wonder whether their children will have a better life than their parents. As we have seen with the dissatisfaction with both major- party nominees — neither of whom I support — these passions are real and the public will demand action.

Some will say that as a Republican I have an obligation to support my party’s nominee. I have thought long and hard about that, for being a Republican is part of what defines me as a person. I revere the history of my party, most particularly the value it has always placed on the worth and dignity of the individual, and I will continue to work across the country for Republican candidates. It is because of Mr. Trump’s inability and unwillingness to honor that legacy that I am unable to support his candidacy.

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