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#16681 Re: Guns N' Roses » Crazy Theory regarding CD and Reunion » 939 weeks ago
Whoa, where's all of this 'logic' coming from? The stuff people were ridin' my ass for, and calling me 'bitch' for the last couple of months?
D, that is a very logical post that makes all the sense in the world.
I said the other day, "the evidence just keeps mounting". This whole CD releases smacks of a "best of new GN'R" release, and the lack of promotion just isn't Mr. Azoff's style. There's a silver lining involved, and it's a big cash pay day GN'R reunion, just like he did with The Eagles & VH.
People don't want to say it, because it's more unbelievable than CD actually getting released.
The lack of CD promotion, is even more bizarre coupled with the fact Slash & Duff have been uncharacteristically silent for the last several months. They practically went "Axl" on the world, after Weiland's departure and comments. Very unlike them. And they are not actively looking for a replacement lead singer.
Something is going on. Even Chris said in a recently interview about how Axl hasn't went back to that "yet", but "he very well could".
Izzy probably would do a full tour, considering his recent interview where he was open to it, and wanted to do it, because "he wrote alot of those songs" or whatever he said.
Axl would keep his additional musicians also.
GN'R
Axl
Slash
Ron
Izzy
Duff
Frank
Dizzy
Chris
#16682 Re: Guns N' Roses » Did you buy Chinese Democracy single on Itunes? » 939 weeks ago
That was a good post Monkeychow, I have felt the same way about the lack of promotion here in Oz. I am still yet to even hear the song on the radio (not that I listen to commercial radio a lot). But I haven't heard or seen squat about CD coming out anyhwere else either.
As you say if this is symptomatic of what is happening in a lot of countries around the world then I think it's piss poor and will have an impact on sales (or lack thereof).
Looks to me like Azoff is simply clearing the decks of the album and doing very little to promote it. A cynic would suggest that this strategy guarantees the album has the lowest chance of making a big impact compared to a much larger marketing campagin.
Therefore by guaranteeing a medicore response to this album it helps him to firm up the money move - reunion. Not that CD will be a commercial failure but if it doesn't "shoot the lights out" it really forces Axl's hand to a certain extent. Besides, where does Azoff make the big dollars? Not from the CD release but presumably from touring. But how much $$'s do you think he can make from a third CD World Tour with likely a third "different" lineup for such an event.
Azoff ain't here to help Axl out of his predicament, or earn small change on another CD tour - he is here for a major payday.
Sorry I don't want to drag this thread off track nor want to start bashing NewGNR (personally I think it's the wrong time for a reunion and would like to see CD released properly with a decent campaign behind it). It's just that the longer this half assed release campagin goes with CD being treated like the red headed step child (no pun intended) the more everything points to another bigger game being played out.
Don't feel ashamed. What you're using right now, is what we call - the brain.
It's simple logic.
Irving Azoff would not be here for this half-assed CD release. There HAS to be a silver lining. The dude has a line out his front door, and last time I checked, GN'R, especially new GN'R, wasn't exactly a "News at 5" type of client.
#16683 Re: Guns N' Roses » Talking Metal with Chris Pitman » 939 weeks ago
Just to make it clear to everyone, Chris said that, not me. 
#16684 Re: Guns N' Roses » Talking Metal with Chris Pitman » 939 weeks ago
That was a great interview by the way.
We're really finding out how much Chris is truely a member of the band Guns N' Roses. This guy had a HUGE influence on the direction of this material. Maybe more so than Axl himself.
Chris' comment about "okay here's Chinese - now let's move on" really explains the silence imo.
If Axl is actually downplaying this release, so he can shed this 800 pound gorilla off his back, and then move on to future albums, I think that's great.
I know I get frustrated, I call new band kicking ass, I call reunion one day, I call anything that'll get me MATERIAL.
All I want is albums baby. That's all I care about is the music. Just deliver me some albums. I want Chinese now, I want another in 6 months, and so on and so. I'd love to see GN'R start putting out an album like every year, that'd be bitchin'.
Granted he didn't say that, but I just want this band to be active again. On any level.
#16685 Re: Guns N' Roses » (OLD NEWS!)The Limewire Leaks Discussion » 939 weeks ago
Believe me, handing out PMs is a hassle. However, thats how shit spreads. Music doesn't simultaneously leak on to every GNR fans computer. People have to 'spread the wealth'. Lets say you send a song to a few people. Those people should then send the song to others. A chain reaction.
Problem is it doesn't happen, other than you, me, tyler, and i'm sure a couple others.
I know when regular posters are coming to me for this stuff, they aren't getting it from the others i'm giving it to, so I in turn hook them up.
Which is fine, but the whole pay it forward thing is an illusion.
The chain reaction can never start if only 5-6 people are passing it out, and then the buck stops. It never spreads to other fans.
I think some also need to understand with the current leaks, that these are, once again, just remasters of the AIM leaks, just like the ones before them. Let it go. Buy the CD single. Buy the album in a couple weeks.
These leaks are a WASTE of everyone's time imo. 'I'm Sorry' is a good remaster guy, but he's just gonna do all this shit all over again when the final product comes out. Who wants a remaster with AIM noises deep in the mix. Not me.
#16686 Re: Guns N' Roses » (OLD NEWS!)The Limewire Leaks Discussion » 939 weeks ago
I have nothing against MSL, but if he's hosting these songs on his site, don't post those links in the open here. That's no different than posting links to the actual songs.
Everyone here has been around the block a few times and knows how to acquire what they're looking for.
I have no desire to get shut down because people want to post links to sites hosting these leaks.
Then I suggest you delete the 90 fuckin' posts asking for PM's in this thread.
No to be an asshole or anything, but that shit gets annoying after awhile. I know that's why I posted MSL's URL address.
Some of these "fans" are lazy as fuck, and then keep bitching about not having it, and wanting you (or me) to do all the work for them.
It gets lame after awhile. 
#16687 Re: Guns N' Roses » Talking Metal with Chris Pitman » 939 weeks ago
My transcript. Here's the GN'R stuff (sorry, I don't have all day to go through everything)...
Can you talk about how you got involved with Guns N’ Roses, and what it was like meeting Axl for the first time?
Yeah I was introduced to them through Billy Howerdel, he worked for Tool for awhile. Billy’s just a fun guy, he was way into computers and stuff before many people were. He was doing recordings and playing a bunch of instruments, and was like myself, and he turned Axl on to the Lusk record, and Axl was way into the guitar sound and the orchestration we did, and he invited me down to hang out and the first night I met Axl, I didn’t know anything about the band too much, besides their big hits they had on the radio. And when I met him, he was just a really cool guy. He was so warm, and we just had a blast hanging out and he was playing tons of tapes and stuff and eventually he invited me up to his house, like a guest house that was made into a studio, and we wrote music there for like three years just me and him. It was a great neutral zone without people bugging you and a lot of great stuff came out of there. He’s just enormously talented, and he was playing a lot of lead guitar back then.
Really?
Yeah, a lot of people don’t know that. I want to give him props up for it. He was astounding really. He approaches guitars like he approaches vocals. Where you can’t think of anyone in the world doing what he was doing. And I was shocked, he was doing like Blue Oyster Cult double-lead type things. He’s an amazing fella.
When you approach writing a song back in those sessions, what comes first? The melody? The groove? How did that work when you first started writing with Axl?
You just never know. If you start trying to predict it or make a formula, that goes out the window. The funniest instance of us doing stuff like that, I was up at his house for about a week or two, and I was setting up rack mounted samplers, and you had your fake orchestra with synthesizers. One would be the strings, one would be the brass, and I was setting that up for him, and I was going “now this module here, we’re going to us this for brass instruments and here you have horns…”, and he was playing while I was switching the sounds, and I switched the sounds to French horn sound and he was playing this chord progression and I went to another sound, and he goes “oh no, go back to that one” and we went back and it was the French horn sound and he kept playing this progression and it sounded really cool and I turned around and turned on the tape machine and that ended up being the very intro for the song “Madagascar”. And that’s just how that evolved and he just had this chord progression and all of the sudden it married with the French horn and it was their super-moody song and that was the start of that song. We actually recorded it really quickly up there at his house and he just sang unbelievably on it. Great song.
It’s really great that you couldn’t go in there and predict. That’s something that only happened by complete chance. It’s just great that you were able to capture that moment. Because look what it turned into, such a great song.
Yeah, that exact moment is still on the record today, which is what surprises me. It takes me right to that day.
You guys play that live, Dizzy actually plays that in the live setting right?
Yeah, he plays the French horn parts and I’ll play the strings over the top of it. And it comes off great. Pretty powerful. When you hear these recordings… it’s quite astounding. I mean sound wise they’re pretty hybrid of a lot of different processes, that have taken years to do. But while doing it at this pace, you will have not heard anything like this before, cause who’s taken that long to do it, you know? And to work on it that through, it’s quite a sonic feast (or piece) for people to enjoy.
Is Chinese Democracy an album, you think needs to be enjoyed in it’s entirety, or is it an album where you can just pick out one song here and there and listen to it? Is it important to listen to it as an entire concept?
It’s hard for me to judge that, because I’m too far inside of it to be objective like that. To hear it as a whole… I wouldn’t think you’d have to. You could drop the needle anywhere on the record, and you could find something really interesting. It’ll take awhile for people to absorb it, because it’s very rich. There’s a lot of information to deal with. It’s not a record that’s monochrome that sounds like the same, like the band just playing a set. It fuses a lot of different elements together. And that’s Axl’s expertise. He has this kind of collage-like ability to bring things together, like you wouldn’t have thought.
It’s coming out on vinyl too
If you can get the vinyl, get it.
How hard was it to decide on all the material you worked on, on the album, was it hard to decide which songs were going to be on the final album, or is there anything you wished had been on it, that isn’t on it, that you might be saving for the future?
Yeah, there’s a whole wealth of material. I mean 10 years… there’s hundreds and hundreds of songs and ideas and stuff. It was really hard to conceptualize down to what would work together and that was Axl’s thing. He made that part happen. And to this day we’re still working on what’s coming up next. You know, pushing forward things, you know the Chinese thing – cool, you know let’s move on to the next thing. It’s just moving upwards and his spirit is to always to express himself. He hasn't gone back to 1987 or whatever – yet – for nostalgia’s sake. But he very well could.
How does it feel to know after all these years of the press talking about the record, that we finally have a real release date and really only a few weeks away at this point. How did it feel to hear the release date finally final?
A little bit shocking [laughs]. It still is weird. I can’t describe it really. But I’m happy because now people are getting an idea, because they would just continually bash us in the press, like they love to do, because Guns is such a popular band, but the end result is we knew what we had. Very confident about it and it’s something unique. I think people, once they can sink their teeth into it and get an understanding of it, it will have been worth it.
Chris, you co-wrote one of the tracks we’ve all heard so far, "If The World", and it’s great that song became part of the BODY OF LIES movie.
Yeah, especially Ridley Scott, that guy, what a hero. He went through a bunch of our songs, and he picked that one. That was great, but yet still you haven’t heard it in it’s best form yet – high fidelity. It’s going to be exciting. That’s a fine (or fun) one, that one actually is going to be really good for live shows and stuff as well.
Chris, where does the nickname ‘Mother Goose’ come from?
You know it’s funny, I haven’t heard that in quite a while. When Buckethead came into the band, everyone associated with Buckethead has a nickname. It came and went real quick, I only hear it from those people who were associated back then when Bucket was still playing with us. It’s kind of funny to hear now.
[when referring to hanging out with the Talking Metal guys in Jersey]
...I want to come up there and visit Ron and Frank, ‘cause those guys are some of my greatest bros – really. Definitely when Guns comes back to town, we’re gonna have to ‘go large’.
Note: this is about a 99.8% accurate transcript. A few lines here and there were omitted from previous discussion in the interview, in order for the GN'R stuff to 'flow' better
#16688 Re: Guns N' Roses » (OLD NEWS!)The Limewire Leaks Discussion » 939 weeks ago
I hear 'ya. I did the RS thing for years, before someone told me to just disconnect, and reconnect.
It totally beats that 'free download wait' bullshit.
#16689 Re: Guns N' Roses » Did you buy Chinese Democracy single on Itunes? » 939 weeks ago
Axlin08 wrote:Bought it. This one is for you Axl. Solely a 'band support' purchase.
This is the first time i've ever used iTunes. It downloaded as an M4P file.
Does anyone know why in the fuck? Why not MP3?
Because it has DRM on it. It will only play on 5 computers with your iTunes account logged in. You can put it on an iPod. If you want to get rid of the DRM, burn it to a CD in iTunes and then rip the song back into iTunes. The m4p file is a protected AAC file. An unprotected AAC file is m4a. AAC is actually better in quality than mp3, but 128 kbps AAC is lower quality than 192 kbps mp3 or higher. Napster's download is 256 kbps mp3.
Thanks for the info.
That's fuckin' gay.
I guess it doesn't matter, I ripped th audio, amplified (I actually made it sound better than iTunes), and then saved as 320-MP3.
It sounds awesome.
#16690 Re: Guns N' Roses » (OLD NEWS!)The Limewire Leaks Discussion » 939 weeks ago
Big Gun, disconnect your internet, and reconnect.
Rapidshare will load right up. 
