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#16881 Re: Guns N' Roses » OFFICIAL 1st week chart positions for "CHINESE DEMOCRACY" » 940 weeks ago

Sorry just is not mainstream radio, i'm sorry (pardon the play on words).


If they aren't going to put CD on iTunes or provide maybe even a Rock Band 2 download to go with Shackler's, then they need to start prepping another single. Obviously the best bets would be Better, TWAT, and Prostitute (yes Prostitute).

#16882 Re: Guns N' Roses » James Hetfield comments on Axl Rose » 940 weeks ago

It's just really lame to continue on petty bullshit after all these years. Lars has actually stayed friends with Axl, who was initially critical of him after the Montreal incident.

Understand James, like Axl, is a different guy now too. Kids, alcoholism, a band that nearly imploded... it makes you either grow up, or go further down a bad path.

Metallica where they are now shows that they at least on some level got their shit together.

I think for Axl... this is getting his shit together. He's too emotional, and personal, to not kind of have that shit with the old band in the back of his head for forever. It's easier to kind of be cool with people, you don't really have major ties to, thus the Lars thing, thus the Baz thing.

It'd be cool, imo, to see Axl and James hanging out or something, just having a couple drinks. These guys are guys that ran in the same circles back in the day, and it went MAJORLY sour after that tour between James & Axl.

I think it's nice to see James at least being friendly.

#16883 Re: Guns N' Roses » (OLD NEWS!)The Limewire Leaks Discussion » 940 weeks ago

James Lofton wrote:
Captain Winkler wrote:

scraped is an amazing rocker, and why do so many people hate on rhiad? never understood the hate for that song. Sorry is not really a ballad, its doom metal like baz said, as in slow grinding beat, tuned down guitars. for some reason people equate doom metal to death metal, certainly not the case.

I think Riyadh is one of the highlights of the album. A LOT of its hate stems from those awful bootlegs. I didn't like it back then either. Thought it was interesting musically, but considered it a steaming turd. The demo immediately changed my mind.

Instrumentally Riad is amazing. But the vocals... ugh. Axl at his worst. Not enjoyable to the ears, and even seems pitchy, despite being a demo.


I'll be really interested to see what the final studio version is like. My guess is the vocals are going to be completely redone with the rasp, then doubled up like CD with the falsetto as backing vocals.

I think it actually would greatly improve the song. The vocals just ruin it for me, at least in the demo.

Take Axl off of it, and just title it 'Guitar Solo', and i'd be happier with that.

After what I heard with Catcher, and of course the CD single, ALL of these tracks are going to have significant changes from demos & earlier live versions imo. Although I haven't heard SOD-final, so I don't know about that one.

#16884 Re: Guns N' Roses » (OLD NEWS!)The Limewire Leaks Discussion » 940 weeks ago

See if you make your album ballad-heavy, like CD, your rockers have to be AMAZING, to really balance it.

Look at AFD. Loaded with rockers, but because your big ballad was Sweet Child O' Mine, it carried it to balance it out, and also gave more respect to Think About You.

Lies was anchored by Patience. Illusion I was anchored by November Rain. Illusion II was anchored by Estranged. You get the idea.

Well CD is the reverse of that. The ballads are heavy, people are going to draw heavy comparisons to November Rain = This I Love, Estranged = TWAT, but in addition to that, there's several other ballads, some of which are built up as epics, such as Catcher & Prostitute.

Well that leaves you in a position that your rockers have to basically be Welcome To The Jungle or Coma or Civil War... problem is... none of them are. CD is a strong song, but isn't any higher on the tier than Right Next Door To Hell, Perfect Crime, Garden of Eden, those type of songs, Better isn't really a rocker more a rocker/ballad mix, leaving Shackler's & Scraped to pick up the slack. Scraped is WAY too different to ever serve a mainstream purpose or to grab people, and even though I feel Shackler's does that in SOME ways, Shackler's could be Coma II (which it ain't by a long shot), and even still, that ONE rocker just can't do it. Riad is not good, and most are going to feel that way imo. People would be puking all over their radio dials if that song is ever released as a single. It's probably the most out of place song on this entire album. It should've been saved for whatever album features songs like Silkworms.

The ballads on this album shine imo, but the rockers are average-to-good. Thing is because the rockers stick out... they also stick out as... well, B-sides.

#16885 Re: Guns N' Roses » (OLD NEWS!)The Limewire Leaks Discussion » 940 weeks ago

D-Machine wrote:

Please never mention TWAT in the same sentence as Estranged.

Nowhere near even the same sport let alone ballpark

TWAT has the worst lyrics this side of Shotgun Blues


Finck playing other people's solos=bad idea. sloppiest worst lead guitar player I have ever heard.

1) I was referring to the actual structure of the song

2) Most people would disagree with you. TWAT, an unreleased leak, actually made Rolling Stone's Top-20 best GN'R songs ever. Somebody must like it, even if it's hardcore fans.

#16886 Re: The Garden » Scott Weiland endorses Obama » 940 weeks ago

Considering this is coming from a man, who either A) Can't vote, or B) Never registered...


Weiland just likes to hear himself talk/write. He's such a legend in his own mind. Glad he waited until the last week to endorse Obama, considering the fact he's used all these months to gather up all over everyone else's opinion, that they've had since April, so he can convey his own.

#16887 Re: Guns N' Roses » How many stayed strong? » 940 weeks ago

If you've listened to any of the Queen catalog, it won't sound fresh.

#16888 Re: Guns N' Roses » (OLD NEWS!)The Limewire Leaks Discussion » 940 weeks ago

D-Machine wrote:

I love the songs don't get me wrong

but sometimes I feel Axl went from a trendsetter, to a trendchaser.

See that's the problem. GN'R never were a trendsetter. Neither were Metallica, despite what their fans think.

GN'R simply combined a billion different influences into AFD, such as The Stones, Nazareth, and even Hanoi Rocks, to make their own little sound.

Lies (the acoustic stuff) was basically Tom Petty, thus the duet at the VMA's.

The Illusions were as Slash put it, GNR's "White Album", with all kinds of influences. But in reality, in Axl's mind, imo, it was GNR's "A Night At The Opera" or "Day At The Races" or "News Of The World", take your pick. Like Queen, it featured the sleazy GN'R rockers of AFD, with Elton John-influenced ballads, country-elemented epics (Breakdown), and even Metallica-styled metal (Coma). Only Estranged imo, seemed to be their own little unique invention for the albums, but even Estranged seemed to have moments where it felt like Don't Let The Sun Go Down On Me or Candle In The Wind with dolphin sound effects. It apparently wasn't a sound too lost on other artists, because Ozzy put out No More Tears the same year, which seemed like a cousin to Estranged, even with dolphin sound effects too.

CD in alot of ways is like Use Your Illusion III, which is why I keep using Queen as an example. The only difference is, that Axl decided the rockers needed to be updated to a NIN/Rob Zombie-influenced sound, but the ballads basically stayed the same. TWAT sounds like the son of Estranged, Street Of Dreams sounds like an Illusion II song, and several of the ballads sound like Queen songs... with this exception... they sound like Queen songs of the 80's. Thus the reason people are saying This I Love is dated. It is dated. It sounds like it could be on "The Works" or "A Kind of Magic", "If The World" sounds like an "Innuendo" song, and Catcher N' The Rye sounds like it could be on "The Miracle".

At this point i'm waiting for the next tour to roll around and them to start covering "The Show Must Go On" (which would be cool).

This is the direction he's went, which is fine by me, and the music is great.

But trendsetting? No. But then again, GN'R never were.

#16889 Re: Guns N' Roses » (OLD NEWS!)The Limewire Leaks Discussion » 940 weeks ago

James makes a good point with Queensryche. That's how Axl's voice sounds on Sorry. Like Geoff Tate.

#16890 Re: The Sunset Strip » AC/DC "Black Ice" Album and Tour Discussion » 940 weeks ago

Wow, those numbers are crazy. Especially for an exclusive. GN'R should do better than I expected, but the only pitfall is, just about every town in the U.S. (at least from my experience) either has a Wal-Mart, or has one that's close.

The same can't be said for Best Buy, and imo will be the reason GNR's numbers will do well, but won't surpass AC/DC.

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