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#1681 Re: The Garden » 2016 Presidential Election Thread » 539 weeks ago

BLM has legitimate grievances. But their execution sucks. I'm not a fan of them at all.

However, one truth does not negate another. Just because they speak of injustices by police officers does not mean there is not a problem within the black community itself. Nor does it mean they are ignoring that fact or refusing to acknowledge it. It only means they are speaking to that particular issue (blacks who are dealt with much more violently than whites, blacks who receive much longer sentences, blacks who are constantly profiled etc)  Sure there are some that blame everything on whitey, just as there are those who blame everything on Obama (see this thread for more deets.) But that still doesn't render their central message false. They do however dilute their core message with their behavior though. (Splinter groups as in ID's post)

There are plenty of black leaders who address what is going on inside the black community. Perhaps they don't get as much TV time as BLM, but to claim they don't speak up on this issue isn't very accurate IMO.

And in regards to "black on black crime." Most crimes are committed inside their own race. There are plenty, if not more "White on white crimes" but you're not going to hear about it, because it's not a talking point of the right.

#1682 Re: Guns N' Roses » 9/7/16 NISSAN STADIUM, NASHVILLE, TN UNITED STATES » 539 weeks ago

Aussie wrote:

Seems like his handlers/Lebies' are still trying to stage manage every aspect of Axl's surroundings judging by this:

https://m.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1 … &source=48

http://i68.tinypic.com/t6ulus.png

Pretty lame if you ask me.

#1683 Re: The Garden » Michael Jackson's home contained child pornography, animal torture » 539 weeks ago

An in depth article, seems very well done. It's long, but worth the read.

The Truth About What Michael Jackson Had (And Didn’t Have) In His Bedroom

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/no- … 8?section=

#1685 Re: Guns N' Roses » 6/7/16 PAUL BROWN STADIUM, CINCINNATI, OH UNITED STATES » 539 weeks ago

Out to get me owns....always one of  my favorites.

#1686 Re: The Garden » 2016 Presidential Election Thread » 539 weeks ago

polluxlm wrote:

Still think Trump can take this. The polls have been telling us he can't win since he started his campaign. The media has been telling us that. They said he wouldn't even get the nomination.

Well, he did. And Hillary fucking Clinton is still his opponent. All he has to do is convince people he'll be better than her. Even for a mad man that is feasible.

Debates will be decisive imo. No way Hillary will come out looking good from those.

I'd agree with half of what you're saying. The media was in dismay pretty much the entire time. They couldn't believe the polling data, which showed Trump consistently whipping the rest of the GOP candidates. Also the last few cycles we've seen outliers take the lead early on (Bachman, Carson, Perry etc) only to collapse shortly after. I also though Trump would follow the same trajectory.

So the media was wrong by dismissing the polls, but the data itself was correct. The talking heads have a job to do, air space to fill up, and ads to sell. I try to ignore the noise (and it's about to get a lot more noisier) and solely look at data. Of course people dismiss polling numbers as well, but I generally do not.

I have always thought debates meant something, or imagined they would be some make/break point in an election. I'm not so sure they are any more. I think the internet and cable news may have diluted the heft of the debate format. As for this one, I don't think Donald has enough discipline to be an effective debater against Hillary in the long haul. Yes he'll get his soundbites for the 24/7 news cycle. But Hillary is smart as a whip, and actually has a great sense of humor. Hate her or not (not saying you specifically, but whoever) she should not be underestimated in that setting. She sat all day long dealing with that Benghazi panel, and came out the winner. Republican leaders begrudgingly admitted this when it was all said and done.

#1687 Re: Guns N' Roses » 9/7/16 NISSAN STADIUM, NASHVILLE, TN UNITED STATES » 539 weeks ago

James Lofton wrote:

One other thing......need more promo. I think they've done a great job handling things so far but it might be reaching the point where some members can hit the media circuit....Slash and Duff on some mainstream outlets and Dizzy, Fortus, and Frank hitting the online outlets and maybe even the forums. I also think its a missed opportunity not pushing Melissa to the moon. Other than Tracey and Roberta on backing vocals, its very unique for GNR to have a female member and Melissa is very marketable. Guys in general dig on chicks in bands and what bigger band in the world currently has a female member?

I get the mystery aura surrounding this tour.....surprises in store(we just witnessed one last night).....anything can happen....and it sure beats the Scooby Doo mystery act of the Chinese years but this lineup is firing on all cylinders so it should be given a push.


And I agree totally in regards to marketing.

Anything can happen! Who might show up? Guess who showed up last week?

  Etc etc....

#1688 Re: Guns N' Roses » 9/7/16 NISSAN STADIUM, NASHVILLE, TN UNITED STATES » 539 weeks ago

There are a lot of seats left on this one...seems like even more than last week.

#1689 Re: The Garden » Because Canada » 540 weeks ago

He had me @ :09 ....hilarious.

#1690 Re: The Garden » 2016 Presidential Election Thread » 540 weeks ago

johndivney wrote:

Why hasn't she been indicted? And will she be? Should she be?

No x 3.

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