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#161 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 162 weeks ago
#162 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 162 weeks ago
Pretty sure most presidents take documents with them that are classified. What gets me is that the FBI visited him twice over these documents, viewed them and even interviewed him briefly, and recommended they secure them better (they were in the basement safe). Just seems odd.
I admittedly am not very informed on this at all, but if what you say is true, there really is no justification for these actions. And it makes the entire thing political. Sadly the DNC won't be all smiles when the GOP escalates this in early 25. Except this time the GOP won't be hesitant to use the Guard when rioters swarm.
#163 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 162 weeks ago
This is a unique situation, they (Wray or the AG) need to tell the American people what is going on. I don’t want to hear “we don’t comment on an ongoing investigation”. They just raided the former president’s home. They need to say why.
I think it's pretty apparent it's due to the accusations Trump took classified material with him when he left office. How much you care about this really depends on your political biases. Does this look bad for Trump, yep. Does this look bad for the FBI and Biden, yep. Faith in our institutions is already garbage across the spectrum. People on the left believe white supremacist and racist cops are free to execute black men without consequence. People on the right believe far left rioters can burn down city blocks and chuck Molotov cocktails at the Republican president with impunity. Neither are right, but have a touch of truth to their claims.
Why did the FBI need to send in a SWAT team? Why wasn't any similar action taken when Clinton maintained classified information on her private email server? Again, based on who you most often vote for, people are going to have strong opinions on this.
It's a lose/lose situation. No one is going to be happy with this result. Is it a distraction from Biden's sinking poll numbers and Democrats fears about November, or is it a righteous arrest against a dangerous former President? No one outside of the DoJ really knows, but a bunch of people are going to give you their opinion.
Trumpers are going to view this is a politicized attack. It obviously is politicized, but that doesn't mean it was wrong (or right). Everything at this level is politicized. It can't not be. There are so many questions about the executive's authority and ability to declassify anything, that getting a straight answer is years off. This will ultimately be decided by SCOTUS, and that decision is years away.
So what does this accomplish? It gives the Trump nuts more ammo and conspiracy to believe. Trump isn't going to slow down his rhetoric, so what will the January 6th types do now? It encourages the Russian Truthers who were blinded by their own conspiracy and is a further escalation of toxic behavior. Trump hasn't been arrested or charged, but a bunch of people think he is. So if/when that doesn't happen for the aforementioned constitutional considerations, what do they do? 2020 showed us how violent and damaging far left radical can be, and we know Democratic leadership will act in the same manner and handwave it just as they did all throughout 2020 and as Trump did on January 6th.
I look at this from the perspective of how does this help America move forward. How does this stop the Balkanization or civil war of the US? It's early and I don't know any of the details yet. But all I see with this is creating more ammunition for hyper partisans to become further entrenched and increase division. It's not something I think should be cheered or celebrated regardless of your opinion on its justification.
#164 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 162 weeks ago
Mar-a Lago was just raided by the FBI
Doesn’t bode well on so many levels.
#165 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 162 weeks ago
no one should threaten to murder our citizens and elected officials.
Obviously. Which is why it's stupid she went in the first place. Because if China did do something to her, we couldn't not retaliate in the most severe fashion possible. Why are you glad she went? What do you think it accomplished?
#166 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 162 weeks ago
I just don’t see China going that far. Russia could survive the sanctions because they live under sanctions. China could not.
We had sanctions on China during Trump's reign. What changed? Sanctions wouldn't be painless against China, but it'd hurt us more than it hurts them. We owe them billions of dollars and are reliant on their exports for our economy and society to function. Who handles the blowback from such a situation better? The country that can't even keep a couple hundred dipshits from rioting in its Capitol or the authoritarian regime that monitors every email and text message its citizens send?
China is buying up our meat industry. Most nations require citizens of its nations run and own their biggest industries, but not us. We're all too eager to let hostile actors buy up key areas of our economy under the notion of diversity.
#167 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 162 weeks ago
Pelosi has to go. This is obscene. She's essentially turned herself into a Secretary of State on this Asian tour.... talking of "ironclad" support for South Korea and Taiwan...we won't be intimidated, etc. .
It shows what little respect she has for the Biden administration...as well as the Pentagon and State Department. She's gone rogue and is getting off on her power and influence.
The media should ask her why isn't she in those tent cities in Frisco helping her constituents instead of pretending she's the top diplomat during a crisis.
People like this have to start being voted out. Period. This kind of crap is going to get worse...not better.
Pelosi can't travel without Biden's signoff. In case you guys forgot, she tried this shit during Trump's presidency and he just said he wasn't authorizing DoD to fly her ass around. Yes, this makes the US look weak internationally as her visit was entirely fluff meant to agitate China. It accomplished nothing. We're not deviating from our One China policy. We still recognize Beijing as the capitol and heir to Mao's china.
This is what the Democrats do. They don't really do anything but appeal to the window lickers who spend their days on social media and are dumb enough to consider it information.
It's stupid because it's poor statesmanship and accomplishes nothing but antagonizing China and rolling the dice someone intentionally or unintentionally does something that forces us down a military road.
China looks stupid too, lobbing missiles over Taiwan. But unlike the US, they don't need to worry about a bunch of corporate media and shills propagating their narrative. People who riot and loot in China are shot in the face if not sent to prison for reeducation. Contrasted with the US, where if your political violence aligns with the extreme left, you're shown as some kind of brave soul and champion.
I think Hawley was wrong to vote against Finland and Sweden joining NATO, but his OpEd was accurate. Russia isn't our primary threat, China is. And nothing Pelosi has done in the past week has changed that or improved our standing. Biden sends the least appropriate politician in America to go visit Taiwan, as the House has nothing to do with anything outside of the US. Zilch. They don't vote on foreign policy or even cabinet appointments.
#168 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 163 weeks ago
China is stating they're going to launch a targeted military response since Pelosi needed a distraction from her husband's insider trading. Doesn't it feel good to have the adults in charge again? I for one know how excited I am that WW3 is inching closer since 2020 rather than becoming less likely from 2016-2020.
#170 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 163 weeks ago
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/whats- … hange-bill
I can’t find anything in there I’m uncomfortable with. Anything that encourages a movement to electric vehicles and nuclear power, I’m for. There’s no carbon restrictions in this bill.
Why shouldn’t the federal government negotiate drug prices with pharmaceutical companies?
A 15% minimum tax on corporations seems like a great way to fund part of the previous trillion dollar packages.
Manchin got something useful put through and forced the progressives to drop 99% of their pork. I call this a win.
If this new political party making the news today runs Manchin in 24, that’s who I’ll be voting for.