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#17571 Re: Guns N' Roses » Guns N Roses on Universal Music Group Release List » 946 weeks ago
The problem with people sort of thinking a reunion is happening... I'm not saying one would never happen. All I know is Axl Rose is still crazy and still going onstage late. Unless there's contract clauses thrown in by Slash and the boys this time, I don't think it will happen. Axl has to show up for rehearsal, has to show up for jams, has to show up on stage on time, etc...
It's easy to think "yeah... Axl needs a guitarist and a bassist, wow, Slash and Duff!" but that's not a reunion. Adler or Sorum would have to be there for it to be anywhere close. And, I doubt Izzy would have any part of it. Chinese Democracy... and a reunion tour? How does this work? If they play CD stuff, do they play VR stuff? It's really complicated at this point.
At this point it's evidently clear that CD doesn't have to be supported by a tour. Reunited-GN'R could tour, never play ANY CD songs, and still release CD, and let a 'reunion' fuel sales for an album, even though only Axl & Dizzy would be on the album, and the live performances don't feature CD songs.
Even the new band, which is involved with CD, only typically play FOUR songs from the album. Considering the fact they probably have at least three albums worth to choose from.
If GN'R were to reunite, they would rely on the back catalog, which is what new-GN'R does already anyways.
But if they were to reunite, that doesn't mean that Axl has to march to the drum of Slash & Duff. THEY would have to accept he goes on at midnight. They would have to accept he doesn't rehearse. And Axl would have to accept their artistic integrity in the studio, and not be a perfectionist with another artist's work.
Who knows, none of them may be willing for those terms. Something tells me with their current status as active artists, which they ain't, they might be a little more open to get along. People also said David Lee Roth and Eddie Van Halen would never even be in the same room with each other again... Irving Azoff helped change that.
And also just for the sake of accuracy... if Axl & Slash is there... the world will consider it a reunion. Even if they're backed by Richard, Tommy, & Frank. Something tells me if it were to happen, Duff & Matt would be indeed brought in, and the only difference would be that Richard would be on rhythm, with occasional guest appearences by Izzy for the big shows, ala 2006.
#17572 Re: Guns N' Roses » update on MSL's site » 946 weeks ago
If that's true... pathetic.
Glad to see managment is hard at work - TRYING TO RELEASE THE ALBUM.
Oh wait, they're earning their keep by shutting down some nobody's website.
Nothin' but a fuckin' pussy...
#17573 Re: Guns N' Roses » Information on Shackler's Revenge » 946 weeks ago
He didn't say that, but he has been critical of the 2002 VMA appearence, and those close have alluded to the fact that he thought Oh My God was this stellar track, even in demo form, and of course it was met with large negative reviews. Silkworms at Rio III was also met with harsh criticism.
Axl has also said countless times about "i'm not gonna release it until I think it's ready".
To me, considering the fact that this album has been in the works for nearly a decade and isn't any closer to release than it was then, and that fact that the statement above has come out of Axl's mouth, leads me to believe that he just simply doesn't feel it's good enough. And he might be holding a masterpiece. But in his mind he's so sensitive to what people will think, that he keeps going over it and over it and over it, and never releasing it.
But you might take something different from that statement. I think I would too, IF the album had only been the works for a few years. But we both know it hasn't, and producers on the project have said stuff like "we had a finished album in 1999", "we had a finished album in 2001", "we had a finished album in 2003", "we had a finished album in 2006", etc.
How many years have 'finishing touches' been put on the album? That's not a sign of an artist who's confident in his material.
And James, I still think there's a chance that Shackler could be promoted with Rock Band 2 for later platforms & the holiday season - IF - the album is on the way.
#17574 Re: Guns N' Roses » update on MSL's site » 946 weeks ago
I think it's time for an Imposter appearence.
#17575 Re: The Garden » Bush Asks Congress for $700 Billion Bailout » 946 weeks ago
Axlin08 wrote:The free market days are DONE. The government needs to control IT ALL as far as i'm concerned.
Yes they are done and we're not going back, but I don't like the thought of everything being controlled by the government.
Maybe the country does need Obama in this era. He'll usher in the fascism even quicker.
We fought against these types of ideals in WWII and are now embracing them.
I wonder if Bush sees the irony of the US bankrupting itself to "spread democracy" and while that endeavor was underway, we actually destroyed democracy ourselves.
I'm a small government guy myself, but I think the Democrats are stone cold right on this one.
Just because amateurs, who have sabotaged this country, does not mean it's an isolated incident. To protect ourselves, government HAS to step in in keep an eye on this stuff, so we don't have anymore $700bil bailouts.
Maybe one day we can loosen the straps a little, but not for a long time. The banks made this bed. Not Bush, Not Obama, not me or you.
#17576 Re: Guns N' Roses » Bob Lefsetz: Best Buy Deal confirmed/Azoff response to leaks » 946 weeks ago
True. Universal will only stand firm for so long, until it costs them money. They'll cave, and take whatever they can get.
But if Axl still doesn't want a reunion, that's a sad state of affairs. CD at this point, even by fans, is gonna be received as "oh that album Axl did" - even if it's fucking Physical Graffiti - it doesn't have a prayer.
#17577 Re: Guns N' Roses » update on MSL's site » 946 weeks ago
I don't think that's it. MSL has been threatened with legal action in the past, and basically laughed it off. He's also been burned in the past by the GN'R camp, so unless they gave him the money up front, I highly doubt he was bought.
I think he knows something that is so big, that he would slit his own throat to reveal the information. He might be staying silent - FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE FANS.
#17578 Re: Guns N' Roses » Guns N Roses on Universal Music Group Release List » 946 weeks ago
Axlin08 wrote:Actually you're wrong bro. Take it from someone who used to say EXACTLY what YOU just said a thousand times over.
For the first time ever there's actual evidence to support a theory for a GN'R reunion being the works. The first time - EVER. It might be wishful thinking, but to say right now out there, there's nothing at all that points to a reunion is narrow minded.
I'd go so far to say there's more that points to a reunion, then there is evidence that points to CD actually getting released.
What's this evidence you guys are talking about? I don't see anything that points to a reunion. On the contrary, all signs show we're about as far away from a reunion happening as I've ever seen.
And for the record, I became a fan of GNR again when I heard Robin, Tommy and Buckethead were in the band. The old band really had nothing to do with my interest in the new line up. And the new songs sold me. So I agree with Russ, here.
New band isn't going anywhere.
CD still ain't out.
VR has yet to find a lead singer.
GNR might be without a guitarist & bassist.
Weiland has fueled rumors that they were going to reunite in 2006, and talks were going on now. Duff denied it.
Slash, Duff & Matt have been playing up Axl BIG TIME in the last year, way more so than usual. Encouraging a reunion, and hoping it would happen.
"Axl, Slash & Duff could be in a bomb shelter somewhere discussing a reunion, and I wouldn't know about it" - Matt Sorum. You can take that statement anyway you want it.
GNR's new manager is a man who's recent accolades are getting The Eagles back together, and David Lee Roth back in Van Halen.
If you don't want a reunion fine. You asked for evidence. It may not be happening AT ALL, but to say the signs aren't all around is pretty - 
Honest to God dude, I have never been one of these 'reunion fanatics', that they anytime Slash says "Axl, yeah he's cool" in the press, that suddenly the band is getting back together. Never. But I truely feel there is groundwork out there now that points to that road being taken.
#17579 Re: Guns N' Roses » Bob Lefsetz: Best Buy Deal confirmed/Azoff response to leaks » 946 weeks ago
Yeah, I highly doubt that's true. We've been down the road of "a friend of a friend's mother, who's sister works at Wal-Mart, who knows a guy at K-mart, who knows a chick at Best Buy, said that she said, CD is gonna be an exclusive there" - a billion times.
The Best Buy/Wal-Mart rumors made actual credible news sources, so this guy could've just picked up a news paper and read it. OR... he might be telling the absolute truth, because THE MANAGER of Best Buy picked up a paper and read it.
I hold water with MSL and the Universal "forecast" list. Let's start there, and wait on the rest of this stuff. But if something is not announced soon, it's either not coming at all, or it'll just drop in stores, with the first option being FAR more likely.
I still think the hang up is the label wants a reunion, and Axl is holding out. But that's just my personal opinion...
#17580 Re: The Garden » Bush Asks Congress for $700 Billion Bailout » 946 weeks ago
The plan would give the government broad power to buy the bad debt of any U.S. financial institution
the plan would give the Treasury secretary broad power to buy and sell the mortgage-related investments without any additional involvement by lawmakers.
it would allow the Treasury Department to designate financial institutions as 'agents of the government,' and mandate that they perform any 'reasonable duties' that might entail.
From democracy to fascism.
he complained that Bush and his economic advisers were trying to panic lawmakers into rubber-stamping it.
He has no reason to try and make you panic. You rubber stamp everything Bush sends your way. This wont be any different. We're not fools.
Blame the amateurs that ran those companies.
The free market days are DONE. The government needs to control IT ALL as far as i'm concerned.
