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#1761 Re: Guns N' Roses » PAUL STANLEY: DOC MCGHEE Is Not Managing GUNS N' ROSES » 807 weeks ago

If we go down to semantics, it looks like this:

Axl posts to Twitter that Doc is managing Guns.

Paul Stanley learns about it likely the same route as the rest of us.

"A few weeks ago I said to Doc: 'It would've been nice if you'd told us.' Doc replied: 'I had nothing to to do with it.'"

Is Doc suggesting he had nothing to do with Axl posting things on Twitter, that the Tweet was made without his consent? All quite possible. There have been talks between Axl & Doc, that much is certain.

Stanley added, "Doc is not managing GUNS N' ROSES. One day he certainly might but he's not right now."

This suggests Axl jumped the gun on the announcement and the deal has not yet been completely finalized. Stanley suggests there's a strong possibility of Doc becoming the next Guns manager in the future, but so far, a deal has not yet been reached.

And I agree with DCK that Doc has been backtracking and avoiding it due to the ruffled feathers on the KISS end. Simmons and Stanley are likely to be a bit jealous for Axl stepping into their neighborhood, even if Doc should be allowed to make his own mind on the matter.

#1762 Re: Guns N' Roses » Axl being sued for $1.8M by Front Line Management » 807 weeks ago

madagas wrote:

I don't know how much of a presence Live Nation has in Europe. It seems Europe was a go for late SPRING/SUMMER and something stalled it out...wonder if there is any connection.:/

Live Nation isn't the one and only in Europe, but they have a reasonable presence. This differs a bit between countries. Have worked with them locally, they're generally a professional company for what it's worth.

#1763 Re: Guns N' Roses » Axl being sued for $1.8M by Front Line Management » 807 weeks ago

At the end of the day, Azoff's a businessman and a Shyock to boot. His methods leave a healthy room for questioning, including the war he waged against Live Nation before the merger was began to be considered as a possibility. Trust me - $1,8M is peanuts to him, so it's nothing more than to force Axl's hand to get him into negotiations regarding the US tour.

Not to mention the conditions presented here are beyond absurd. 15% cut of the total gross, from 2008 to eternity, based on an oral agreement? Get real. Nobody cuts a deal like that on paper, so Irving's going to have a field day explaining how on earth they managed to secure it.

As for Goldstein, he makes a good hand puppet, but I fail to have been impressed by his managerial efforts in the past. It's no big surprise GNR didn't accomplish much after the Niven era, but simply ran out of steam. Merck wasn't all that hot, either. Azoff got the album out simply by cutting the best deal in the business and clearing the Universal end. Without him, I doubt the album would've ever seen the light of day.

#1764 Re: Dust N' Bones & Cyborg Slunks » The drumming on "Slash" » 807 weeks ago

monkeychow wrote:

^ Which is maybe why the two best GNR drummers are the guys who actually really want to be in the band: Frank and Adler!! just my 2c smile

For the record,

Brain loved doing shows like RIR3 and got a major kick out drumming for a band of that stature. However, as time passed, his heart was no longer in it as much, particularly with his old friend Bucket leaving.

His departure in 2006 wasn't as much getting fired, rather than going on a paternal leave and realizing he didn't need to tour with GNR to maintain his financial situation. Other offers were again coming in and he managed to scrape out enough employment to drop out.

Frank was already in and the band didn't suffer in the process, which enabled Brain to step into the sidelines amicably. His number is still in Axl's registry, only he doesn't work as much with the band as he once did. The Shackler Club Mix is a good example of the things he's mainly asked for nowadays.

#1765 Re: Dust N' Bones & Cyborg Slunks » The drumming on "Slash" » 808 weeks ago

On Brain / Freese;

You might remember Freese worked as the original session drummer on Chinese Democracy in '98-'00 and recorded the original backing tracks to most songs, even co-writing the title track. Having said that, his sentiments towards the project as a whole might've been similar to those of Slash's solo album. Freese, like many others, had a problem with Axl's timekeeping and the incessant jamming / re-recording. You can't blame the guy for walking out after his contract expired to hang out with Maynard James Keenan.

Brain was never really allowed to rework the drum tracks as such. Axl and then-producer Roy Thomas Baker went for his 'feel', whatever the hell that means, and Brain had to learn all the existing drum tracks and adapt himself to Freese's style, which could be loosely described as more compact and 'punk'. Hence, the older CD tracks with original Freese drum arrangements are actually Brain trying to emulate Freese the best he can, with the occassional quip thrown into it. Inspiring for someone like Brain? Guess again.

No surprise you get the stories of Brain recording at the attic of Village Recording Studios in a former Freemason lodge. The dude was just trying to make the best out of the situation, which obviously meant spending a good deal of Universal money to gain some level of inspiration. This is not meant to lessen Brain, as many other people involved in the project did the same thing, and worse. He simply had resources in his disposal and he took them up.

But that's mainly why you get uninspired Brain drumming based on uninspired Freese arrangements.

#1766 Re: Dust N' Bones & Cyborg Slunks » Paradise City Pulled from Slash's Solo Album » 808 weeks ago

I'd say they had a contractual agreement to waiver any and all publishing rights to the GNR Partnership, which, as of 05/01/98, has been Axl. All writers still get their share of royalties, but I doubt Axl'd wish to relinquish partial control on the publishing rights to anyone else.

#1767 Re: Dust N' Bones & Cyborg Slunks » Paradise City Pulled from Slash's Solo Album » 808 weeks ago

They were, they were.

In early 2005, Axl sold Sanctuary his share of the rights on the '86-'98 back catalogue (1/3), along with full publishing rights for the CD tracks. He profited in around $20 Million out of that deal, so no-one needs to feel sorry for 'poor' Axl.

In late 2007, Sanctuary filed bankcruptcy and Uni acquired the assets. They gained control over the GNR publishing rights (1/3 of the back catalogue & 100% of CD) in the process.

#1768 Re: Dust N' Bones & Cyborg Slunks » Paradise City Pulled from Slash's Solo Album » 808 weeks ago

Mikkamakka wrote:
apex-twin wrote:

The publishing rights for Paradise City are divided between three parties:

- Slash
- Duff
- Universal Music Group

In order for Axl to block the release, he'd need to go through Uni to file a complaint.

Universal, not Sanctuary? I know that Uni bought Sanctuary, but that company still exists, doesn't it? Does it work independent, or is it strongly controled by Uni?

Currently, only Sanctuary Artist Management operates under the old name. Sanctuary Publishing has been discontinued. Sanctuary Records has been merged into Uni completely, with artists moved to other in-house subsidiary labels, namely Decca.

#1769 Re: Dust N' Bones & Cyborg Slunks » Paradise City Pulled from Slash's Solo Album » 808 weeks ago

The publishing rights for Paradise City are divided between three parties:

- Slash
- Duff
- Universal Music Group

In order for Axl to block the release, he'd need to go through Uni to file a complaint.

#1770 Re: Guns N' Roses » GNR In Central America » 808 weeks ago

madagas wrote:

Hopefully, these huge shows will bank roll and fund the "business" to the point where they can properly release another record in the Fall and clear up any lingering monetary issues from the Chinese debacle. What do you think "Apex"? 16:smile:

All above board, old man. big_smile

Seriously, I doubt there are as many unsettled accounts between Uni & Axl on the CD bill as there are with Axl & Sanctuary Group (now a Uni-subsidiary). Merck pulled a real fast one to bring an ailing company to help his boy out in 2004 while finishing the album and Uni basically inherited the debt (management fees, recording costs, etc).

Axl's not stripped for cash, but the scuttlebutt is that Guns have certainly been on the brink of bankruptcy. The dude's smart enough to keep his personal fortune tucked away from the business side of things, but selling the publishing rights to the back catalogue as collateral meant all the less income from music licensing, etc.

Axl gets his money mainly from royalties, but CD hasn't made the band that much richer. Touring & merch sales are basically a necessity at this point to keep everyone on the payroll on a regular basis (even though they've stuck through the drought). In that sense, it's cool Axl seems to seriously enjoy touring again.

Another record? Axl's not working on one "right now", as he spends the down-time between tour legs on a bender. Who knows what he did throughout last year, but unless Album #2 is already mastered and sealed off, I wouldn't count on getting new music this year.

The US/Euro legs should give a clear signal to Uni in terms of CD's popularity / Guns stock market value, for better or for worse.

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