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#1871 Re: The Garden » 2016 Presidential Election Thread » 561 weeks ago
I'm disappointed you couldn't tie that in with Soundgarden...just sayin'.
#1872 Re: The Garden » 2016 Presidential Election Thread » 561 weeks ago
You admit the housing crisis goes back basically to making sure everyone got a house correct? And who propped up those toxic loans and predatory lending to mainly African Americans? THE FUCKING DEMOCRATS. then it all collapsed because everyone got in on it and everyone started taking advantage of it, even the banks because it was easy money. Not everyone needs their own home or free cell phone or free college tuition. It is that mentality that creates this entitlement nanny state that will hurt us for decades to come.
Nobody forced the banks to give out loans. The banks gave out loans because THEY MADE MONEY and they were greedy. Who propped up the loans? Wall Street, that's who.
You think only poor people took out sub prime loans? Reminds me of my dickhead cousin, who lost all nine of his houses during the bust, then blamed the entire thing on the poor blacks. Funny how when it comes to personal responsibility, Republicans sure like to blame it all on the least among us. He was quick to brag about the money he made prior though. So when he was up, he was a genius. When he lost his ass, then it was everybody elses fault.
The free cell phone thing...started way before Obama btw. It was enacted in 1985 while Reagan was president.
#1873 Re: The Garden » 2016 Presidential Election Thread » 561 weeks ago
Clinton could have taken out Osama Bin Laden.... and I think USS Cole and WTC Bombing happened under his watch. Had Clinton has a 3rd and 4th term much if that decade would have gone the same fucking way.
Clinton, like Bush had a domestic as well as a foreign born terror attack on his watch. The perpetrators of both (Twin towers bombing and Oklahoma bombing,) both had their sorry asses put in jail.
#1874 Re: The Garden » 2016 Presidential Election Thread » 561 weeks ago
It is not the low income earners fault at all. It was the policy they came up with to give them loans that was the issue.
It was unsustainable. The influx in loans meant influx in sales, mean increased demand, meant increased costs, meant more foreclosures, then the financial crisis hit and thousands of people foreclosed... They created the "sub prime" market.. That means they gave loans to people with bad credit, etc with variable rates so it was cheap at first but after 5 years the rates went up causing a major cluster fuck. The whole system was fucked up.
The overwhelming majority of these loans weren't backed by any federal entity. They were "mortgage houses" set up with Wall Street money, who gave out loans, then immediately resold them to be re-bundled as securities. The ratings agencies were some of the biggest culprits of this disaster, because they awarded these dogshit securities AAA ratings. Ultimately though, many people were complicit in the bubble: Lenders, Wall Street financiers, ratings agencies, Realtors, appraisers, Mortgage brokers, and the buyers themselves.
I'm also tired of hearing that the Democrats "blocked" anything. 1) Show me one bill proposal put forth by the GOP to tighten up lending practices. 2) Explain to me how a minority party (GOP had the House/Senate/Executive at the time) was able to block this imaginary proposal? Nobody blocked anything, because there was nothing to block. If the GOP wanted to do something back then, they could have easily done it with little if any opposition.
#1875 Re: The Garden » 2016 Presidential Election Thread » 562 weeks ago
If Hillary wins, my money would be on Julian Castro, not Bernie.
#1876 Re: Guns N' Roses » Vegas Shows Roll Call » 562 weeks ago
Yea p jelly here also.
BUT I don't want ANYONE on here to feel like they oughta be updating or posting shit on a website.
Live in it, we'll hear about it from the rest & you guys after if you remember anything.Leave your phone in you car/hotel & just go to the show.
This.
Put those damn phones down and experience your life.
#1877 Re: The Garden » 2016 Presidential Election Thread » 562 weeks ago
Trump is done. He is an "image" candidate. His image now is of a "loser." He already was the brash, racist, classless asshole who shoots from the hip, but people liked that. Now he's the losing, brash, racist, classless asshole who shoots from the hip. That's not gonna sell. He barely beat Rubio.
Also, don't forget. He's funding his own campaign. He's a businessman. He's not going to continue to pump money into a losing effort.
Trump, you're fired.
I wouldn't call it quite yet. Cruz took this one because of the evangelical vote. Trump catering to that demographic is kind of hilarious; I'm guessing he is as legitimately religious as I am. But I'm not surprised by him taking second place to Cruz here.
I don't think Iowa is a very good litmus test for the GOP. We need to see more. One thing about elections, they can shift quickly. Anything can happen, especially this far out.
#1878 Re: The Garden » 2016 Presidential Election Thread » 562 weeks ago
Cramer wrote:Given who has won the GOP Iowa caucuses prior, I don't give this much weight. Same for Dems.
That's a good point.
Didn't Bush win Iowa in 80? Buchanan in 92?
Huckabee just dropped out. One down.....many more to go.
They really need to drop out if they're that low. I think they've been hanging on for so long because they can't believe what's happening and keep anticipating a shift.
Speaking of Huckabee, he won this caucus in 2008. Rick Santorum in 2012.
#1879 Re: The Garden » 2016 Presidential Election Thread » 562 weeks ago
I thought Rubio would be the pick a few months ago, but Trump came in like bulldozer and knocked everything down. If it were a more establishment type setting, then yes I'd say Rubio or Bush. But who the hell knows anymore. The GOP do have a history of courting those outside the beltway initially and then falling back into line near the end. Trump's staying power has long exceeded the previous patterns, so I felt he was more of a contender (as did many unhappy GOP elites) than the Bachmans and Santorums of the past.
#1880 Re: The Garden » 2016 Presidential Election Thread » 562 weeks ago
Given who has won the GOP Iowa caucuses prior, I don't give this much weight. Same for Dems.
