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#2111 Re: Dust N' Bones & Cyborg Slunks » Tobias vs. Slash » 924 weeks ago
Let's start a 'Who is a better singer, Duff or Axl' thread next.
#2112 Re: Guns N' Roses » Former GN'R Manager Alan Niven Counters Axl's Claims » 924 weeks ago
Axlin, please elaborote which famous GN'R riffs and solos were written by Izzy without Slash. Besides YCBM.
#2113 Re: Guns N' Roses » Former GN'R Manager Alan Niven Counters Axl's Claims » 924 weeks ago
Izzy created alot of those 'stand the test of time' riffs... but anyways...
Wrong.
#2114 Re: Dust N' Bones & Cyborg Slunks » A.X.L. » 924 weeks ago
Just to add the logic from a current thread in the GNR section, Slash is NOT better than Paul Huge because Huge was the original guitarist on those songs.
You know it's not that we were talking about.
#2115 Re: Guns N' Roses » Former GN'R Manager Alan Niven Counters Axl's Claims » 924 weeks ago
misterID wrote:The '91 version of KOHD was awful. The '02 GNR version was fantastic.
The '02 version is fuckin' gay. One of the lamest, limpest, boring, sleep-inducing, piss break, go get a beer, songs the band has ever done.
A-G-R-E-E-D. I always hated the Nu-GN'R version of the song. A cheesy, boring, uninspired shit. The worst interpretation of the classic catalogue.
#2116 Re: Dust N' Bones & Cyborg Slunks » A.X.L. » 924 weeks ago
As far as I know it's an anal drug. I'm not kidding, read it somewhere years ago.
Edit:
wikipedia says another thing:
AXL receptor tyrosine kinase
The protein encoded by this gene is a member of the receptor tyrosine kinase subfamily. Although it is similar to other receptor tyrosine kinases, the Axl protein represents a unique structure of the extracellular region that juxtaposes IgL and FNIII repeats. It transduce signals from the extracellular matrix into the cytoplasm by binding growth factors like vitamin K-dependent protein growth-arrest-specific gene 6. It is involved in the stimulation of cell proliferation. This receptor can also mediate cell aggregation by homophilic binding. Axl is a chronic myelogenous leukemia-associated oncogene and also associated with colon cancer and melanoma. It is in close vicinity to the bcl3 oncogene which is at 19q13.1-q13.2. The Axl gene is evolutionarily conserved between vertebrate species. This gene has two different alternatively spliced transcript variants
#2117 Re: Guns N' Roses » How many would you attend? » 924 weeks ago
Depends on who play the show and how much it costs. If it's this incarnation of GN'R, then I'd go to the CD show only. If the tickets are cheap enough.
#2118 Re: Guns N' Roses » Former GN'R Manager Alan Niven Counters Axl's Claims » 924 weeks ago
It can be. Anyway, I hope you see my point.
#2119 Dust N' Bones & Cyborg Slunks » Josh Freese sells himself - price list » 924 weeks ago
- Mikkamakka
- Replies: 4
He works hard for the money
Josh Freese Is Going To Redefine "Value-Added"
It's hard not to like the way that journeyman drummer Josh Freese is trying to make a few extra bucks from the release of his new album, Since 1972. Where else can you purchase an album, a drum lesson, a few previously worn outfits and a trip to a strip club with a semi-famous drummer for only $2,500?
Freese left Nine Inch Nails late last year in order to spend more time with his children, which is an admirable goal. Since he likely made more money as a for-hire touring drummer than he did recording drum tracks for an Abandoned Pools disc, he's got to make up that lost income somehow. Why not offer twenty different album packages, priced between $7 and $75,000?
$7
-Digital Download of "Since 1972" (including 3 videos)
$15
-CD/DVD Double Disc Set
-Digital Download
$50
-CD/DVD Double Disc Set
-T-shirt
-"Thank You" phone call from Josh for buying Since 1972. You can tell him what you like about the record that you purchased, or what you thought sucked. Ask whatever you want, like "Is Maynard really THAT weird?" or "Which on of Sting's mansions has the comfiest beds?" or "Are Devo really Suburban Robots that monitor reality or just a bunch of Dads from Ohio?" or "Why don't the Vandals play more stuff off the first record?" It's your 5 minutes to yack it up. Talk about whatever you want.
$250 (limited edition of 25)
-Signed CD/DVD and digital download.
-T-shirt
-Signed Drum Head and Drumsticks.
-Go on a lunch date with Josh to PF Changs or The Cheesecake Factory (whatever you're into.)
$500 (limited edition of 15)
-Signed CD/DVD and digital download
-T-shirt
-Signed Cymbal and sticks
-Meet Josh in Venice, CA and go floating together in a Sensory deprivation tank (filmed and posted on youtube)
-Dinner at Sizzler (get your $8.99 Steak and "all you can eat" Shrimp on)
$1,000 (limited edition of 10)
-Signed CD/DVD and digital download.
-T-shirt
-Signed Cymbal, Drum head and Drumsticks.
-Josh washes your car OR does your laundry....or you can wash his car.
-Have dinner with Josh aboard the "Queen Mary" in Long Beach, CA
-Get drunk and cut each other's hair in the parking lot of the Long Beach courthouse (filmed and posted on youtube of course)
$2,500 (limited edition of 5)
-Signed CD/DVD and digital download.
-Get a private drum lesson with Josh or for all you non-drummers have him give you a back and foot massage (couples welcome)
-Pick any 1 member of the Vandals or DEVO (subject to availability) to accompany you and Josh to either the Hollywood Wax Museum or the lunch buffet at the "Spearmint Rhino"
-Signed DW snare drum.
-Take 3 items of your choice out of his closet (first come, first serve)
-Change diapers and make bottles with him for an afternoon (after hitting the strip club)
$5,000 (limited edition of 3)
-Signed CD/DVD and digital download.
-T-shirt
-Josh writes about a song about you and make available on iTunes.
-Co-direct a video with him for the song about you and throw it up on the youtubes.
-Josh gives you and a friend a private tour of Disneyland
-Get drunk together. If you don't drink we can go to my Dads place and hang out under the "Tuba tree"
-Stone from Pearl Jam will send you a letter telling you about his favorite song on "Since 1972"
$10,000 (limited edition of 1)
-Signed CD/ DVD and digital download
-T-shirt
-Signed DW snare drum from A Perfect Circle's 2003 tour.
-Josh gives you a private drum lesson OR his and hers foot/back massage (couples welcome, discreet parking)
-Twiggy from Manson's band and Josh take you and a guest to Roscoe's Chicken n' Waffle in Long Beach for dinner.
-Josh takes you and guest to "Club 33" (the super-duper exclusive and private restaurant at Disneyland located above the Pirates Of The Caribbean) and then hit a couple rides afterwards (preferably the Tiki Room, Haunted Mansion and The Tower Of Terror)
-At the end of the day at Disneyland drive away in Josh's Volvo station wagon. It's all yours....take it. Just drop him off on your way home though please.
$20,000 (limited edition of 1)
-Signed CD/DVD and digital download.
-T-shirt
-A signed drum from the 2008 Nine Inch Nails tour.
-Maynard James Keenan, Mark from Devo and Josh take you miniature golfing and then drop you off on the side of the freeway (all filmed and posted on youtube)
-Josh gives you a tour of Long Beach. See his first apartment, the coffee shop on 2nd St where his buddy paid Dave Grohl $40 to rip up tile just weeks before joining "Nirvana." See the old Vandals rehearsal spot, the liquor store he got busted using a Fake I.D. at when he was 17 (it was Dave from the Vandals old ID). Go check out Snoop Dogg's high- school. For an extra 50 bucks see where Tom and Adrian from No Doubt live.=2 0For another $25 he'll show ya where Eric from NOFX and Brooks from Bad Religion get their hair cut.
-Spend the night aboard the Queen Mary and take the "Ghosts And Legends" tour. (separate rooms...no spooning.)
-Josh writes 2 songs about you and it's made available on iTunes and appears on his next record (you can sing back up on em, clap, play the drums, triangle, whatever....)
-Drum lesson OR foot and back massage (once again...couples welcome and discreet parking available)
-Pick any 3 items out of Josh's closet.
$75,000 (limited edition of 1)
-Signed CD/DVD and digital download
-T-shirt
-Go on tour with Josh for a few days.
-Have Josh write, record and release a 5 song EP about you and your life story.
-Take home any of his drumsets (only one but you can choose which one.)
-Take shrooms and cruise Hollywood in Danny from TOOL's Lamborgini OR play quarters and then hop on the Ouija board for a while.
-Josh will join your band for a month...play shows, record, party with groupies, etc....
-If you don't have a band he'll be your personal assistant for a month (4 day work weeks, 10 am to 4 pm)
-Take a limo down to Tijuana and he'll show you how it's done (what that means exactly we can't legally get into here)
-If you don't live in Southern California (but are a US resident) he'll come to you and be your personal assistant/cabana boy for 2 weeks.
-Take a flying trapeze lesson with Josh and Robin from NIN, go back to Robin's place afterwards and his wife will make you raw lasagna.
If the Volvo's model year is right, I think I found what I'm going to get my wife for her birthday. Although I find the $250 T-shirt / signed snare drum / lunch with Freese package to be quite a bargain, too. If you're just curious as to what Freese sounds like on his own (his first album, The Notorious One Man Orgy, was a solid piece of powerpop), a digital copy of the album complete with three music videos is only $7. But you don't get lunch with that, so plan accordingly.
#2120 Re: Guns N' Roses » Former GN'R Manager Alan Niven Counters Axl's Claims » 924 weeks ago
-D- wrote:If a guitar player is covering the original guitarist work, they cannot be BETTER cause they are playing music created by someone else.
So for someone to say those guys were better than Slash before CD came out is just lame and ridiculous.
Now, since CD is out, u can argue anything u want to argue. but I thought it was retarded for people to make those claims based on how guys covered his stuff.
Untrue. Many covers surpass their originals, and although i'd normally agree with you, there's quite a few people that would argue that GNR's Live and Let Die, Knockin' On Heaven's Door, and Sympathy For The Devil surpass their originals. Alot of people like those songs.
they changed those songs drastically, with the sligh exception of Sympathy. Slash even wrote those new solos for KOHD.
A cover band's player can be more technical than the guy who originally wrote the song, but if he play the stuff ote by note and doesn't create anything new, than no, no way in hell he's the better guitarist. Muisc is art and it's more about the creation than copying other's ideas. I bet some painters today can make two Mona Lisas a day, but Leonardo is superior to them by far.
