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#2181 Re: Guns N' Roses » Former GN'R Manager Alan Niven Counters Axl's Claims » 927 weeks ago
I've just checked (although it's a translation, not the original book) and it backs my words.
On the other hand, he describes Goldstein as an Axl-minion, so it seems that Alan was better (for the rest of the band), but even he was more on Axl's side, or if you like it better, wanted to keep peace nad the band alive, and it seemed easier to stick with the bi-polar guy and convince the others to make compromises.
#2182 Re: Guns N' Roses » Former GN'R Manager Alan Niven Counters Axl's Claims » 927 weeks ago
Interesting read, although Slash pretty much says in his book that they felt Alan was Axl's guy to control the rest of the band and alan was always pro-Axl and they (he) felt Niven didn't stand for their interests and the manager rather shuned the confrontation with Axl to make the singer 'happy'.
#2183 Re: Guns N' Roses » Chinese Democracy Elimination Round 9 » 927 weeks ago
#2184 Re: Guns N' Roses » Pick one song.... » 927 weeks ago
There Was a Time
Agreed. A big move to the electronic zone (compared to the old material), yet it has above-the-top guitar solos and great lyrics. A huge song, I absolutely love it.
#2185 Re: Guns N' Roses » Lars Comments on "Better" Video » 927 weeks ago
Mikka, Tommy was still a full time musician when he was doing the telemarketing thing. I assume he was just trying to make some extra money. He was a session musician and also had his band Perfect. He joined Gnr because he couldn't get the Perfect record released by his label. Let's leave Tommy out of this ridiculous discussion. He's been a musician and artist since he was 13 for christ's sake.
Yeah, I left him out of my last posts, since he has a career outside Axl's camp.
It doesn't change my opinion that just because Tommy likes Axl, Axl is not crazy. That's where the argument was started by someone. BTW I'm not sure if Tommy's so fond of Axl's personality and decisions, although he's been very loyal in the last decade.
He's Axl's full-time 'Ranchhand' if you get the idea.
Yeah, sorta, as far as I know. (The question was directed to one specific forum member, who found insulting the idea that Del's wealth depends on Axl.) Since the answer, as we all knew, starts with 'he's Axl's...' I take it as my point is proven: Del is not an objective (IMO not even very reliable) source since he's paid by Axl.
So to sum it all: the fact (or opinion) that anyone likes Axl, Slash, Britney or Wino, does not tell anything about the person's personality.
I'm still entitled to my opinion that the FACT that Marilyn Manson, who is known for his eccentrics and out-of-ordinary antics (another FACT), therefore he's CONSIDERED TO BE close to crazy (OPINION), and he seems to be very open and appreciative for every out-of-line behavior (FACT), thinks that somebody's gone so far mentally that he is crazy (OPINION) means something. He's not the oracle, he's not some modern Pythia. But his opinion strongly tells something. It's like when Steven Tyler and Joe Perry gave the Toxic Twins T-shirt to Slash, or when Slash warned Amy Winehouse to pull herself together, or she'd die.
#2186 Re: Guns N' Roses » Lars Comments on "Better" Video » 927 weeks ago
Yeah, I know GN'R's history and I can believe Beta, Del etc. really likes Axl. Everybody has friends.
I don't think Beta would be so great in 'character judgement' that anyone she likes we should like. It's not about Axl, but it's hysterical that some people (not you) rate Beta or Del above the world. Their opinion is unquestionable.
Hey, they are human beings, just because they like someone it doesn't mean that the person isn't crazy. Not to mention the money factor: not only their 'love', but their financial needs strenghten their commitment to Axl, so please everybody stop the 'Beta loves Axl, so he isn't crazy' mantra.
My question is still legit: what Del's doing for his living?
#2187 Management » Trolls » 927 weeks ago
- Mikkamakka
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Hi everybody,
I really like this place for not having hundreds of trolls around us. But there are some, who add nothing to the conversation but one-sentence nonsense replies, start fights and decrease others' karma all the time for having a different opinion. Can't we rid of them? To tell the truth I'm thinking of only one troll, who's very annoying.
Thanks,
M
#2188 Re: Guns N' Roses » Lars Comments on "Better" Video » 927 weeks ago
Then tell me what Del's doing for his living, since you got so offended. Tell me what Tommy worked before he joined GN'R. Tell me what Beta's job was. Try to deny it with some proof.
#2189 Re: Guns N' Roses » Lars Comments on "Better" Video » 927 weeks ago
I think when Marilyn Manson thinks you're crazy, that means something.
No it doesn't. I would actually say it strengthens my view of it instead of putting the final nail in the coffin like you think it does.
Beta has been with him for 15 years. Tommy 10. Del James since like forever. Are you saying they are incompetent in character judgement?
They are on Axl's paylist. Beta became a personal assistant/some kind of manager from a housekeeper. I guess she doesn't want to clean the toilet anymore. Del James... well, the only thing why he's 'famous' is Axl Rose. He's the typical hanger-on, lives off Axl. Tommy was a telesales guy before Axl called him. I think it's better to be in a legendary band and not doing anything, or working for the vaults than going back to find another 9 to 5 job in telemarketing.
#2190 Re: Guns N' Roses » Chinese Democracy Elimination Round 8 » 927 weeks ago
Mikkamakka wrote:If The World. Can't believe it's still here, it shows the quality of the whole album. CITR comes next.
Once again, that's YOUR opinion. I think "If The World" is great. I can't believe it's getting so many votes.
It's a message board. A forum, if you know what I mean. People say what they think. Their opinion. It's your problem if you can't accept others', and act like THEY have their (wrong) OPINION, but what YOU say is the crystal clear TRUTH, right from the oracular source. Otherwise you wouldn't complain this much about OPINIONs.
