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#2261 Re: Guns N' Roses » Overall feelings on the CD era songs.... » 959 weeks ago
Saikin wrote:Smoking Guns wrote:This is exactly what is going on. Breakdown, if a CD era song, would be the best CD era song IMO. I can't believe a fellow fan would say Estranged was trash. I think its one of GNR's finest moments.
Please show me where I said Estranged is trash. For those who know my past, i have always said Estranged is an amazing song and far better than NR.
Breakdown is too an amazing song.
Saikin, you didn't. I think I once saw the list you speak of called bad songs by great bands. I think it had to do with a video that wasn't well recieved. I remember letting a friend hear estranged on the school bus in 1993 or so. He was fucking blown away and was never a fan of GNR but said that song was brilliant. No lie. He said it was one of the most beautiful songs he had ever heard.
I took your post wrong then, sorry.
Estranged is one amazing song, that's for damn sure. That's why it pisses me off that it is taken as a joke just because of the video. I hate how people are too dumb to see past the video and listen to the music. There's a concept, judge music based on the music. 
Are we really this bored with the leaks already that we have to talk about UYI?
#2262 Re: Guns N' Roses » Overall feelings on the CD era songs.... » 959 weeks ago
Bono wrote:Saikin wrote:That is why Estranged has been voted one of the worst rock ballads of all time. It's considered a joke by most people.
Civil War is easily forgotten by the general public. Ask anyone that isn't a diehard to name a GNR song and i can guarantee that Civil War and Estranged won't even cross their minds.
haha! Ask anyone who's not a diehard to name anything other than SCOM, PC, Jungle, or November Rain. You really are outta touch here Saikin with the appreciation that Civil War garners from Gn'R fans and non fans alike. That is a sick ass song and I've yet to hear anyone ever say otherwise.
None of the Estranged bashing ever happend untill after the video was released. the song rules and everyone knew it. BUT when they put out the over the top video it was durring the Grunge fever pitch and it was now cool to blast bands like Gn'R. the video was pompus so critics started to associate the song with the video. the video was anything but street crd Gn'R so of course sudenly the song losses it's cred. My brother who is not in any way shape or from a diehard or even a fan really just said he thinks Estranged is, and I quote "fucking awesome".
is it just me or am I seeing a situation develope here where people are wanting to like the new Gn'R so badly that the've actually started trying to justify a song like Estranged being a joke or Civil War being forgettable to support their case? This has got to be one of the most insane things I've ever seen on a Gn'R forum.
This is exactly what is going on. Breakdown, if a CD era song, would be the best CD era song IMO. I can't believe a fellow fan would say Estranged was trash. I think its one of GNR's finest moments.
Please show me where I said Estranged is trash. For those who know my past, i have always said Estranged is an amazing song and far better than NR.
Breakdown is too an amazing song.
#2263 Re: Guns N' Roses » Overall feelings on the CD era songs.... » 959 weeks ago
Saikin wrote:That is why Estranged has been voted one of the worst rock ballads of all time. It's considered a joke by most people.
Civil War is easily forgotten by the general public. Ask anyone that isn't a diehard to name a GNR song and i can guarantee that Civil War and Estranged won't even cross their minds.
haha! Ask anyone who's not a diehard to name anything other than SCOM, PC, Jungle, or November Rain. You really are outta touch here Saikin with the appreciation that Civil War garners from Gn'R fans and non fans alike. That is a sick ass song and I've yet to hear anyone ever say otherwise.
None of the Estranged bashing ever happend untill after the video was released. the song rules and everyone knew it. BUT when they put out the over the top video it was durring the Grunge fever pitch and it was now cool to blast bands like Gn'R. the video was pompus so critics started to associate the song with the video. the video was anything but street crd Gn'R so of course sudenly the song losses it's cred. My brother who is not in any way shape or from a diehard or even a fan really just said he thinks Estranged is, and I quote "fucking awesome".
is it just me or am I seeing a situation develope here where people are wanting to like the new Gn'R so badly that the've actually started trying to justify a song like Estranged being a joke or Civil War being forgettable to support their case? This has got to be one of the most insane things I've ever seen on a Gn'R forum.
Estranged isn't a joke, i never said it was. I did say the public views it as a joke, and that is because of the video. People remember songs a lot by their videos, and Estranged's isn't really a good one.
Most casual GNR fans i know do not know Civil War, at least not by name. They know the song, but not the name.
#2264 Re: Guns N' Roses » Overall feelings on the CD era songs.... » 959 weeks ago
Communist China wrote:Bono wrote:Seriously outside the cozey confines of the Gn'R forum world would think The Blues is one of the greatest songs Axl has ever written? I just don't see that happening. Up there with SCOM, Civil War, November Rain, Estranged? No way.
Here, though, the GN'R forum arrogance is already stamped on this post just like those loving the leaks. Tell me again who loves Estranged beyond GN'R diehards? Estranged is one of the biggest jokes to music fans when it came out, and it's still an easy joke people make when talking about GN'R.
I am 100% sure that The Blues would be given more respect than Estranged was.
And I'm not sure people really remember Civil War...
Everyone I know that has ever heard estranged loved it. Civil War gets good air play where I live. Next.
That is why Estranged has been voted one of the worst rock ballads of all time. It's considered a joke by most people.
Civil War is easily forgotten by the general public. Ask anyone that isn't a diehard to name a GNR song and i can guarantee that Civil War and Estranged won't even cross their minds.
#2265 Re: Guns N' Roses » Overall feelings on the CD era songs.... » 959 weeks ago
People have been talking about dated, and the influences... and I'm STILL the only one to hear a ton of Faith No More in If The World? It's almost a FNM cover tune, yet all I hear is that it's a BH 70s funk-porn song. I can't be the only one to hear that.
EDIT: Just saw the post in the If The World thread. That's what I'm talking about. I hear way more of that than I do BH.
It's a 20th century album I guess. But then again the popular new rock music like Buckcherry is pretty much just going back to old Aerosmith roots, so what does that tell you? It's really hard to define a sound that's current... it's just a certain type of retro that's popular right now and that isn't really what CD is, I guess.
I know someone who is a huge FNM fan on an STP forum, i will ask him to listen to If the World and see what he thinks. I haven't heard too much of them so i can't really say.
One of the biggest problems with current music is that there really is no one sound that can define the time. It's not like Grunge, or Hair Metal or anything like that.
Smoking Guns- guitars don't get my dick hard. The mixing is off on these songs, and they do sound a little cluttered. But just because of that, you can't say that other music is better musically. Musically these tracks are beyond Snakepit.
#2266 Re: Guns N' Roses » New song lyrics » 959 weeks ago
Just listened to that part a couple more times and i for sure hear "Bring you down".
The way he's singing it, it really sounds like "Bring you down". Can't be "bring me down."
#2267 Re: Dust N' Bones & Cyborg Slunks » Buckethead sings!!! » 959 weeks ago
Not very well, but there it is.
True. The singing sounds a lot like some amature decided to post a video on youtube.
Kinda creepy in a way when he first starts singing.
#2268 Re: Guns N' Roses » Potential Singles? » 959 weeks ago
I can't really see CITR being successful on radio stations. It just doesn't seem like it would have mainstream appeal.
Good points about Better and Rhiad James.
CD definintley has a lot of potential on radio stations. Anyone who has been listening to radio knows that it would do great. It's not like what's on the radio right now, but it's got a groove and is a pretty hard hitting song.
Mainstream music isn't really progressing. Hit songs that came out early 2000's would still be a success today. If Down with the Sickness, Slither, or almost any other hit was released this year, it would be a hit.
If Welcome to the Jungle was released today, it wouldn't be a hit. I feel that is the biggest problem facing these tracks. They aren't like what's out there and they are a blend of different genres.
#2269 Re: Dust N' Bones & Cyborg Slunks » Buckethead sings!!! » 959 weeks ago
Wow. I didn't know he sang too.
#2270 Guns N' Roses » Potential Singles? » 959 weeks ago
- Saikin
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Since i've noticed there's been a lot of talk about what would work as singles vs what wouldn't, i thought this topic deserved it's own thread.
I can't honestly say that any one of these songs would be a huge hit single, and in today's world of hits that's not neccessarily a bad thing, but i could see some of them being really successfull.
My vote goes for Better, CD, The Blues, IRS, Rhiad and If the World.
I think those songs have the potential to be fairly successful as singles. From what we've heard, i think Better should be the first single.
