R4 got shut down. If your gonna go down that route with the DS it's probably better go with Cyclos, M3 or Supercard

I always hate the "why not" line of reasoning. Saying they shouldn't do something that at the end of the day will only have positive consequences because they haven't done it to something else is nonsensical.

One of the main differences with alcohol and smoking is it's less addictive. Not saying it's not addictive because alcoholism is a pretty good example that it is but it definetly isn't as addictive as smoking. Would reducing the "cool factor" of drinking be a good idea. Yes. But would reducing the "cool factor" and trying to prevent younger people getting so easily hooked to smoking be a good idea. Yes!

@Neemo: that whole thing of doctors not seeing patients is messed up. Seriously messed up. We banned smoking in public places i.e. bars, restaurants etc here a couple of years back and the number of new smokers and smokers overall has decreased and our NHS board praised it. Doctors over here may not be as eager to help smokers but they would never refuse treatment.

The title of this thread is very misleading. They're just reducing the ammount of nicotine that goes into a cigarette therefore making it less addictive and easier to quit. I see no disadvantage to pushing legislation through that will lead to a decline in the number of people smoking.

Robin didn't really do much for the fans apart from play for them when they paid...