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#2361 Re: Guns N' Roses » Official Statement from GNR Management » 971 weeks ago
Backslash wrote:I'm loving this... As long as they're talking, I'm satisfied.
I agree. As long as a line of communication is open to the fans, the "wait" becomes manageable. Even if its just to let the hardcores know they are alive. The people who have stuck by the band through all this insanity deserve at least a bit of respect.
I'm starting to think Axl got sick of the "yes men" running the show and decided to bring in some peeps who have more of an interest in the project than just licking his ass while collecting a paycheck.
These guys don't need Axl to survive. Thats a good thing.
That's the best idea for GNR. Axl doesn't need people who are intimidated by him and are just going to agree with everything he sees. He also doesn't need people who aren't on the same page as he is either. Since he has settled on new management, i'm sure that's what he's got right now with these guys.
I'm really enjoying the communication. We don't need daily updates of course, but i hope they keep the communication open.
#2362 Re: Guns N' Roses » Top 5 Reasons Axl is better than Scott » 971 weeks ago
Neemo, i just thought the article was interesting.
One of STP's biggest problem was their singles i feel. A lot of those songs should never have been released as singles when there was so many better songs on the records.
STP's albums, minus Core, were not single-driven, which is both a good and bad thing.
#2363 Re: Guns N' Roses » DR. PEPPER ISSUES CHALLENGE TO AXL ROSE! » 971 weeks ago
About the legal implications...
In my business law class this term, we studied a case whereby a lady released a baby-care ad for public promotion. The video featured toys but she did not have the permission of the toy company. The company caught wind of it and successfully sued her. The company successfully argued that they did not endorse her product and therefore felt that the lady misrepresented herself as affiliated with the company.
I don't see how this case would be argued differently. Sure, a different decision would probably be met, but Axl could at least get this case brought to court... If not now, then when the promotion is actually released. Although it's possible that Dr Pepper's marketing team would develop this strategy without contacting anyone in the GNR camp, it's unlikely that they would. Especially if they have a competent legal team. It's far more likely that they contacted all parties involved before investing anything into the campaign. Otherwise, the promotion would be a potential disaster. Think about it. Even though Dr Pepper has the promotion worded as a challenge to GNR and they would probably be able to successfully argue that this doesn't harm GNR or the label or anything else in a court of law, there would be legal costs on top of everything else in order to fight it. It's far more logical to assume that the company would contact everyone involved prior to releasing the ad campaign to avoid such costs. Moreover, those who argue that the campaign hasn't been officially released yet so GNR probably didn't know beforehand, well, if the company waited until the last minute to get permission from the band and label and didn't receive approval, all of a sudden they're out the millions they've invested into the campaign. Corporate marketing and legal teams aren't stupid.
For the record, I'm not saying Axl's lying... it's all part of the promotion. It's a game. Dr Pepper challenges and Axl Rose remains mysterious and accepts the challenge without ever saying the album will definitely come out in 2008. It's creating a buzz.
You are absolutely right. Dr Pepper would have had to contact GNR's legal teams to use the names GNR, Axl and Chinese Democracy. This would have had to be planned out so they didn't risk a lawsuit. With a company as big as Dr Pepper, there is no way their marketting teams would be so dumb as to leave any risk of a lawsuit when they know who they are dealing with.
#2364 Re: Guns N' Roses » Top 5 Reasons Axl is better than Scott » 971 weeks ago
Only one reason needs to be given....
Axl owns the stage he is on. Doesn't matter who else is onstage at the moment, or how many bands/artists performed before him that night. The stage is his, and his alone.
That is so true.
I read somewhere that when Linkin Park opened for STP, some kids were leaving after LP's set because they didn't care about STP. No way that would ever happen with GNR on stage. Axl could blow anyone else out of the water. Having GNR open for you would be a very hard decision, because they would set a standard so high that there is no way they could possibly perform to that level.
I read in "Reckless Road" that when GNR opened for Ted Nugent, Ted was pissed because GNR were playing too loud and getting the crowd too pumped up. He knew there was no way he could match the band that just went on before him.
It would also suck for bands opening for GNR, because no matter who they are, there is no way the singer could perform to Axl's standard.
#2365 Re: Guns N' Roses » DR. PEPPER ISSUES CHALLENGE TO AXL ROSE! » 971 weeks ago
^ At least Dr. Pepper didn't offer to shit in BH's bucket. They have more taste than certain band members do. Certain band members that add nothing to the band's sound and aren't name Richard or Frank.
True that. Karma.
I want to know if anyone else feels the same as me. I think it should have been, "except Slash, Matt and Scott." Definently Matt for sure.
#2366 Guns N' Roses » Top 5 Reasons Axl is better than Scott » 971 weeks ago
- Saikin
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(antiMusic) It is I, antiGuy! I have returned to inspire gigabytes of hate-mail! Did you miss me? I didn't think so. In all seriousness, I had planned to resurrect my old Top 5 lists next month in honor of antiMusic's 10th anniversary, but on Monday I read Scott Weiland's childish hissyfit and it opened the door to a topic that I've been wanting to cover for a long time; how Weiland doesn't measured up to Axl.
I, for one, was excited when I heard that Slash, Duff and Matt were teaming up for a new group. The first info out was that Josh Todd was to front the group. I had my reservations when I heard this because, while Todd has a powerful voice, he's not that dynamic of a singer. Apparently the group agreed and he was out of the running. Then a host of names were floated, included a longtime antiMusic favorite Kelly Shaefer, but ultimately the band made the surprising choice of Scott Weiland. I was a little shocked because of Weiland's troubles and explosive personality, but maybe they felt his voice was strong enough to overcome those shortcomings.Then the moment of truth arrived and we finally heard what this new supergroup sounded like and to be honest, I was under-whelmed. I wasn't expecting Guns N' Roses Pt II, but what I heard didn't make the sale and after a few spins, the CD was placed on the disappointment shelf to gather dust. I gave them another chance with their second CD and that was even more disappointing. The songs were strong, but the vocals just didn't have the power needed to make them shine. Velvet Revolver's music style calls for a lot more than the underpowered "Layne Staley lite" style of Stone Temple Pilots.
I understand that a lot of people loved what Velvet Revolver had to offer. They heard something that I must have missed, but I'm sure that most would agree that VR hasn't come anywhere close to matching what Guns N' Roses did musically. I personally lay a lot of blame for that on the vocals. So for this Top 5 list, I look at the reasons why Axl is better than Weiland.
5: Attitude - Axl may have an attitude at times, but it's mostly because he is a perfectionist and doesn't want to give less than 100%, which can cause problems with bandmates, whereas Weiland has an attitude because he's an a....
4: Power - When the song calls for it, Axl can take it PAST 11, whereas Weiland tends to top out around 6 1/2.
3: Appreciation - Axl is pretty reclusive, but when he does go out in public, fans can approach him and he'll talk with them, take photos etc, whereas Weiland has been reported to tell fans that want autographs or photos that he "doesn't do eBay". Damn, I might have paid 50 cents for that autograph.
2: Quality - 'Appetite' is a classic that is still selling well today, whereas 'Core' etc are largely forgotten now that the Alice in Chain clone trend is over.
And the number one reason why Axl is better than Weiland...
Originality -Axl has a very unique and dynamic voice that is unmistakable, whereas we're heard Weiland's voice from a dozen bands and it's about as original as a Fox reality show.
http://www.antimusic.com/news/08/march/ … land.shtml
I don't want to start any fights, and that's not why i posted this. I think it brings up some interesting points. I don't think Scott is quite as bad as this guy seems to think, but all his points are valid i think.
#2367 Dust N' Bones & Cyborg Slunks » VR Without Scott » 971 weeks ago
- Saikin
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Would you have a problem with them keeping the name without Scott?
I wouldn't. It was originally Slash, Duff and Matt's project, and it wouldn't really bother me if they kept the name and had a different singer, even a different guitarist besides Dave. (Izzy maybe?)
#2368 Re: Guns N' Roses » Axl/GN'R have new management » 971 weeks ago
I know he has some side project for later this year. If that gets delayed, its time for people to fasten their seatbelts......
What's interesting as well is how Bumblefoot seems to be doing a lot of side projects right now, and recording and getting ready to release an album. Now, if he's in GNR and they have management and CD is being released, don't you think he'd be apart of it...
Too early to tell really, but it's very interesting to hear all this.
#2369 Re: Guns N' Roses » DR. PEPPER ISSUES CHALLENGE TO AXL ROSE! » 971 weeks ago
Saikin wrote:Communist China wrote:I think that's the point. Would be very cool.
"Some of Buckethead's performances"= bad news
How is that bad? Seriously, do we have to go down this road again? Or, do you mean "bad" as in, he's been replaced in parts?
To clarify, i mean bad as in he may have been replaced in certain parts. That would be very bad, because i can't imagine anyone else doing better than BH.
#2370 Re: Guns N' Roses » DR. PEPPER ISSUES CHALLENGE TO AXL ROSE! » 971 weeks ago
Some of BH's performances are better than none. For all we know, some of BH's performances could be on every song, I mean, there's a lot of Robin's and Tommy's performances that won't be on the album either.
Good point! It's always a relief to hear that he is on the album. I think Axl knows that it would set him back a good 9 years taking BH off.
