Little Instrumental Guitar piece of mine. Impromptu jam actually. I hit play on drum machine record and started playing. Solos are one take.

I don't think the vocals are lazy.

I think some of the things you guys hear - like the voices in Madagascar and Street of Dreams - are done for artistic effect as Axl thought it suited the song.

There are also vocal passages in the album (twat screams) that are stupidly hard to do.

Any other vocal issues are probably due to changes in Axl's voice.

He hasn't sounded the same live in a long time. And there's obviously a reason why some nights he comes out in mickey-mouse mode and other nights like in japan in 2010 he can scream the building down.

If they are the demo takes...it could well be because they turned out to be the better takes...

Have a real listen to Axl's voice in 2012, stepping back from the excitement of a show, once you listen clinically if you can find it in the mix at all, because in the last TWAT boot the vocals were totally absent in the verse almost,  you can hear serious issues - tell me which of the songs you think he could realistically nail better than the album? The album takes may not be perfect but he sounds more like Axl than he has live in 2 years at least.

I agree with the hodge podge guitar work. There's moments of excellence and moments of nothing much. And the whole thing is seriously edited and rejigged to a point where it's loosing it's feel. It feels sloppy in places, and I'm not a fan of the mix work either. So much seems buried all the time.

But the songwriting itself in terms of Axl's bits is amazing. Catcher is a genius song for sure. And it's not alone. Basically I think the production of the album kinda sucks - but the songs themselves are great.