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#251 Re: The Sunset Strip » GNREvo's Favourite Album of the Century so far, Elimination Round 8 » 314 weeks ago
Chinese Democracy
#252 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 314 weeks ago
The funny thing about this election is that Trump inspired more votes for Biden than Biden did. I wonder how this would have gone with any other Republican.
At the same time, I think the media helped get more Republicans out to vote Trump than Trump did.
The PA voting is ridiculous. It does look really shady how they're kicking people out of the counting rooms and covering up the windows, and then defying a judge's order to allow witnesses by saying, "we'll let you in a little bit" but don't and keep counting. Really, what's the point of that? You're only giving Trump ammunition.
The whole thing is livestreamed online. Reviewers can get 30 feet away. They cant inspect each envelope because repubs would try thwarting it by rejecting every few votes to slow the whole thing down, then protest that it took 20 days to figure out.
The ppl arent counting the votes, machines do that, just inspecting for signature dates and pushing them thru.
#253 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 314 weeks ago
They’re reporting in the UK he has the most votes of any presidential candidate ever.
Although Trump has also picked up 3 million more votes than he did in 2016.
Wow thats hard to believe. Considering he likely also lost moderates and seemed to lose some women votes. Mustve got a total of like 5 or 6 mil new voters.
#254 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 314 weeks ago
Logically, any ballot that arrives today in those states should be counted, as they were obviously mailed yesterday (Election Day). They should still be set aside, in case its a court issue, but realistically they probably should easily count. Those received Thursday & Friday are debateable, but the amount are probably very inconsequential.
#255 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 314 weeks ago
Window looks to be closing on trump. Seems highly unlikely he can do much. Sue everybody?!
Definitely wasn't the blue wave, trump definitely got a vote out, polls were oddly wrong twice now after seemingly being fairly accurate for decades, and the House/Senate didn't go Dems favor nearly as much as they hoped or expected. Georgia's a strange anomoly this year? Odd. NC I think Charlotte area is shifting and alot of Virginians are moving their as the DC metro has gotten expensive, and AZ similar getting alot of Californians. Also trashing McCain probably wasn't very smart but it didn't seem to impact him there in 16 so go figure. So I say GA was the oddity, TX even tho it didn't fully swing, it was a heavy shift to blue whereas the rest of the country stayed fairly red. Ohio dipped bluer than people expected, at least early on, myb I didn't see final tally.
#256 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 314 weeks ago
Randall Flagg wrote:James wrote:If he lost, it's over. He'll be Sleepy Donald in 4 years.
Ivanka may run in 2024 in an attempt to cash in on Trumpism but I think it's over if Biden takes this.
Not sure how the country is going to react to no more 24/7 Trump.
It'll be weird.
No Trump will ever be allowed into the GOP again. Don't get me wrong, Trump has done wonders to steal the blue collar base from the Democrats, but the man and his family are pure toxicity. Chelsea Clinton wouldn't fair well either. Sean Parnell just ousted Democrat Connor Lamb in Pittsburgh. Look for him to be a rising start in the GOP - late 30s and a decorated combat veteran who lead a company of men in Afghanistan. Veterans like me are getting really tired of these reservists who served as lawyers and spent 4 months at a Hilton pretending to be John Rambo.
I still think Crenshaw is going to be a superstar. Nikki Haley is who the Republican base will rally around, though. It's hard to pick a rising star on the Democratic side who isn't a niche left wing candidate or isn't getting held back by Pelosi. It could very well be a celebrity/billionaire candidate, ie the Rock or Bob Iger.
Could be a Governor. Hickenloopers a Senator who just won in CO, probably too short turnaround tho. I dunno. It won't be a retread of this year, aside from Kamala. I don't think it will be uncontested either, some Dems will run.
GOP I say Sasse, Haley, and you're right Crenshaw. They're the frontrunners at least. A few names will popup too. I think Cruz & Rubio are just an era gone by. Rubio could have a chance in 24 or 28, I think he'd more likely be a potential VP choice.
#257 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 314 weeks ago
Aha, so here's why Team Trump rushed to declare victory in Pa.
My back of the envelope estimate was that Biden needed 67% of the outstanding vote to win PA. Since I started tracking, he's gotten 76% of what has come in
— Nolan McCarty (@Nolan_Mc) November 4, 2020
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Whoa.
#258 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 314 weeks ago
What are they basing that on? Just wishful thinking? The fact they are ahead?
It just seems so arbitrary. "OK, everybody tweet out that we won at 2:30 p.m. That should settle it."
Well that's exactly it. He's controlling the narrative, distorting the truth, so his supporters believe these votes still being counted should be invalid, and all voting must stop.
Which isn't true, most were received as of yesterday. Hundreds of thousands of them.
#259 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 314 weeks ago
James wrote:misterID wrote:The best scenario imo is Biden winning and dealing with McConnell. This way, Trump saves face and can brag about getting more votes than Obama, how the race was rigged against him and he didn't really lose, and he can just troll "Sleepy Joe" for the next four years. But hopefully he doesn't run again. I just have this awful feeling he will.
If he lost, it's over. He'll be Sleepy Donald in 4 years.
Ivanka may run in 2024 in an attempt to cash in on Trumpism but I think it's over if Biden takes this.
Not sure how the country is going to react to no more 24/7 Trump.
It'll be weird.
No Trump will ever be allowed into the GOP again. Don't get me wrong, Trump has done wonders to steal the blue collar base from the Democrats, but the man and his family are pure toxicity. Chelsea Clinton wouldn't fair well either. Sean Parnell just ousted Democrat Connor Lamb in Pittsburgh. Look for him to be a rising start in the GOP - late 30s and a decorated combat veteran who lead a company of men in Afghanistan. Veterans like me are getting really tired of these reservists who served as lawyers and spent 4 months at a Hilton pretending to be John Rambo.
OK Flagg that was pretty funny.
Didn't Pittsburgh have a young mayor few years back? Was he one of those guys? Thought he was up & coming, may have been R.
#260 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 314 weeks ago
Randall Flagg wrote:mitchejw wrote:I see a pretty clear path to 271 EVs for Biden.
Could this be like Gore v. Bush in 2000? I can't recall what the supreme court decided there...did they vote to ignore the recounts and just went by the original totals?
They stopped Gore form getting a recount exclusively in Miami-Dade. My idiot friends are telling me more than 100k votes were cast in Wisconsin than registered voters, so there's one possible court case. PA absolutely will be contested, but seems more limited to votes received today through Friday. If Trump is losing when all ballots cast/received by yesterday are counted, it seems moot to me.
I have heard through the grapevine that Pennsylvania still has a shit ton of vote to count and like 35 people are doing...LOL.
The news last night reported they (Philadelphia) can process 10,000 an hour, which if they ran 12 hours yesterday, was only 120,000. Population a million+ so votes is probably around 200k-300k or more. So, 2-3 days.
