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#281 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 379 weeks ago

buzzsaw wrote:

Go watch shows like All in the Family or The Jeffersons.  Great shows that wouldn't even be aired today.  Pussification of America is continuing and people are getting tired of it.

All in the Family made fun of people like you. Archie Bunker was a character. You understand this right?

#282 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 380 weeks ago

mitchejw wrote:

A wall is not now nor will it ever be necessary.

That's the same thing our intelligence agencies say. There is not a national security threat on the border. But again, our idiot President lies and says there is.

Just like they say the opposite of what Trump claims about North Korea, or the Russians, or NATO, or his poll numbers, or any of his accomplishments....just about anything Trump claims is a lie.

#283 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 380 weeks ago

Randall Flagg wrote:

Trump's approval rating is almost identical to Obama's at the same point in time.  .

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Who is a bigger liar? Who believes their own bullshit more? Trump or Flagg?

An average taken from 538:

Obama: On Wednesday, Jan. 30, 2011, Barack Obama’s approval rating was 50.2 percent.
Trump: On Wednesday, Jan. 30, 2019, Donald Trump’s approval rating is 39.6 percent.

#284 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 381 weeks ago

PaSnow wrote:
Smoking Guns wrote:

This Roger Stone arrest is very weak. More heavy handed moves with no real meat on the bone.

What?? He's IT. He is the WHALE in this.  HE, reached out to russian hackers, and GOT the ILLEGALLY OBTAINED HACKED EMAILS from Russians. He even ANNOUNCED it was going to happen.

HE IS IT!!  He is collusion. He is Treason. He is the connection between Russia >>  Donald Trumps Campaign.

Stone is the link between the Russians (Wikileaks) and the Trump campaign. It's well documented, and he spoke about it publicly. There are no coincidences here.

What he was indicted for today is what they are sure they can send him to prison for TODAY. It doesn't mean they won't charge him with further crimes. Which of course they could also withhold, if he decides to flip like Flynn did and all the others.

#285 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 381 weeks ago

PaSnow wrote:

Pelosi is handling this like a boss!

She is.

#286 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 381 weeks ago

PaSnow wrote:

Flynn didn't flip?  Really, I find that interesting? :

This alone is enough to disqualify Flagg from any convo about this investigation (I thought he was leaving anyway?)

Flynn not only flipped, but was a star witness for Mueller, providing evidence for over a year. To say he's not cooperating is like...huh?

#287 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 382 weeks ago

mitchejw wrote:
Randall Flagg wrote:

For realz. Every story you guys have talked about for months has been total bullshit. At what point do you recognize how reckless it is for media to spread this shit. All the talk of stoking hate?  This is clearly propaganda executed in bad faith. Particularly when you consider how favorably they showed Obama’s many, many objective and factual fuck ups. It’s just absurd that not only this is happening, but how many devious people embrace it because they’re not intelligent, informed or even decent. It’s truly shameful. I can’t fathom how anyone can trust these outlets.

They are quite literally fake news.

Real news is anything trump says right?

It’s weird how CNN is fake news until it says something RF wants to hear...

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WSJ, NYTs and Washington Post have been covering this fiasco the entire time, putting forth one damning article after another in great detail. Thorough investigative journalism at its finest that leaves no stone unturned. Trump people ignore that reality. Looking for the "aha" moment to justify their "fake news" narrative and ignore this criminal administration. 

They're traitors, just like Trump is.

#288 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 382 weeks ago

PaSnow wrote:

Hmmm, sorta like the Steele Dossier tho, not false, just unsubstantiated.

"BuzzFeed's description of specific statements to the Special Counsel's Office, and characterization of documents and testimony obtained by this office, regarding Michael Cohen's Congressional testimony are not accurate,"

Curious how its a bit of wordplay that "specific statements"... are not accurate. Just read the Buzzfeed article, there's a lot of specific, small accusations which, if individually are false, aren't a complete bottoming out of the meat of it.


Although, it's possible they got bad info & possibly intentionally. That'd be quite a swindle tho. We'll find alot out on Feb 8th or whenever Cohens testifying, that's for sure.


Mueller's office has been virtually silent this entire time, so to see them say anything is very strange IMO. In fact it's allowed Trump and his delusional base to attack him with their lies the entire time.

So for them to issue that statement is baffling to me.

Either way, it doesn't mean much in the big scheme of things. Trump isn't any less fucked today because of this. It's not like there aren't half a dozen other reasons to charge him with obstruction anyway.

#289 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 382 weeks ago

Randall Flagg wrote:

For realz. Every story you guys have talked about for months has been total bullshit. At what point do you recognize how reckless it is for media to spread this shit. All the talk of stoking hate?  This is clearly propaganda executed in bad faith. Particularly when you consider how favorably they showed Obama’s many, many objective and factual fuck ups. It’s just absurd that not only this is happening, but how many devious people embrace it because they’re not intelligent, informed or even decent. It’s truly shameful. I can’t fathom how anyone can trust these outlets.

They are quite literally fake news.

Such projection. You've been wrong on just about every single fucking thing. Seriously...everything.

They didn't say it was false in its entirety. They said it wasn't accurate. Otherwise they would have said it the entire report was wrong, which they did not.

You're a right wing stooge, so again you're looking for a slam dunk to support your partisan bias. So predictable. I knew you'd be here saying this. Like clockwork. Even after everything that's come to light, you won't back down. And here's my prediction, once the shit hits the fan and the report is issued, you'll slice it, dice it and play semantics to prove you were right. Even if Trump gets 86d. That's just who you are I guess.

#290 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 382 weeks ago

Mueller already covered this one. Gee whiz, ya think Donald lied on this part of the written exam?



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